Mark Driscoll Loves Theology More Than Scripture - Re: Noah Wasn't a Righteous Man

Verses? We don't need no stinkin' verses . . . we have theology!

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[fron052]

@fron052 Driscoll's point is that Noah isn't better or more holier than anyone else living at that time. Through God's grace Noah was save. God made Noah righteous it was nothing Noah DID that is Driscoll's point. You notice the Bible says Noah found favor with the Lord before it says he was righteous. It would seem to me that through the favor Noah received from God that is what made him righteous. So Noah's righteousness comes from God and is not a product of something he did.

[fron052]

@greekgoof Hey let's look at verse Genesis 6:8 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD. Not because of anything he did but by God's grace he was saved. My bible says that although 6:9 says that Noah was "righteous" and "blameless" does not mean that he never sinned (the Bible records one of his sins in 9:20). Driscoll's point is that people use that verse, 6:9 to say that if you are good God will save you or God will love you, etc.

[brendos444]

@fron052 What part of "blameless" and "walked with God" don't you understand. Noah was "righteous" as scripture says.

[husky3601]

So there is some people who go to heaven without Jesus, but by being like Noah. Thank you sir for putting this video together. Your wonderfull wisdom of reading snippets of the bible is much better than having to read the whole book and take it into context. I really had a problem with all that other suff it says in the bible, about no one being righteous, but now I can forget that now. You really are a wise man of God.

[MrPup118]

I'm sure it would have been helpful to include the whole sermon (the dangers or uploading snippets of sermons) but Mark Driscoll is right - it saddens me that a brother in Christ has put so much time and energy into a video like this. "Have nothing to do with foolish controversies" 2 Tim 2:23

[TimotheosCauvin]

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. (Heb 11:7)

Simul iustus et peccator.

We have to love Scripture and the theology we derive from it!

[ebj1871]

hahaha @timotheus333 you do realize that Mark addressed verse 9 right??? And that it comes AFTER verse 8. Therefore, "grace" first then "blamelessnes". Have a blessed day sir

[happyguync]

If you would read verse 8, you will see that Noah was only righteous because he found favor (grace) in the eyes of the Lord. Aside from God's grace, Noah and every christian is a sinner. Mark is right. Yes, Mark read the bible, and also did a great job preaching it here.

[KingdomPrince11]

What gets me is the lack of sensitivity to which this video was executed. If this guy suspects Mark of heresy through his 'misinterpretation' of the word, he should have approached him more respectively in love as a brother or father (preferrably in private) to show respect for the annointing Mark has on his life as a pastor and leader. This looks like the actions of a man that wishes to expose a false prophet, but is this now 'controversial' evidence enough to go on to support this accusation?

[chaneza]

@fron052 agreed. if you continue watching his sermon, Mark Driscoll continues on to include verse 9, in which he points out that Noah became righteous and blameless, AFTER he found favor in God's eyes, not before. His problem is that most of the time people leave out the favor part and go straight to the righteous part. But its impossible to be righteous without grace.

[kyungkp]

just like when Abraham was COUNTED righteous for having faith in God. key word is COUNTED. same here. NOAH was COUNTED / found favor with God and he is righteous in the sigh of God... Video like this or people who says such things, it exposes them of their knowledge of the bible... you have to understand the totality of the scripture not just few books of the bible.

[kyungkp]

ok clearly the creator of this video does not understand this text and what Driscoll is talking about. we are only saved by FAITH not works! In Romans Paul teaches us that and even jesus said no one can come to him unless FAther draws them to him. We can not save our selves because all of us have sinned (Romans)!! we all fall short in the glory of God! all of us! including Noah! but wait how did Noah became righteous in the sight of God? God found favor (undeserving grace) through Noah.