Atheist Experience #517 - belief versus free will

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[steelydan53]

So the world was a more moral place when more people believed in god (or gods)?

You really think so?

Try reading some history!

[atysays]

Christians need to make sure to be corrected: They don't get their morals from the Bible either. At best, they get their morals from societal and cultural standards at church and other places.

If we got our morals from the Bible, there would be nothing wrong with slavery or killing in the name of God.

[friendshipsystem]

@koryk1 There once was a time when all people believed in God and the Church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages.

-Richard Lederer

[WILLTHEWGMAN]

@itzahazylife

The human free-will question is not a science one, it's a metaphysical question and world-view, one in which the whole world's population lives with the facts of human free-will including those that claim that free-will is mere illusion. Even Sam Harris thinks that there are objective moral standards at the same time claiming that human free-will is illusory which is a self-contradiction and opposing world-views. I have never seen anyone live life as if they had no free-will...

[WILLTHEWGMAN]

@steelydan53

The majority of the world's human population has ALWAYS believed in a God or Gods including today and is at 85% or higher depending on the source. Please learn human world history before you make such silly comments. Atheism has never been above a mere 15% of any historic world population, and if you disagree with this fact please let me what year Atheism was at a higher percent than this?

[drjackflash]

@itzahazylife Thank you, that was better. I disagree with your view point but hey, thats fine. You will live so therefore you will learn.

[WILLTHEWGMAN]

@itzahazylife

I have seen it, so, if human consciousness is mere biochemical illusion how could humans derive any trust or truth in any human experience including human logic and reason? Surely you could not argue that yes, human consciousness is illusory but from this illusory we can find and learn truths.. this is a self-defeating point of debate. Human logic and reason itself would be derived from this same biochemical illusion therefore could not trustworthy as "real" or of "truth"...

[itzahazylife]

watch "free will is an illusion" by sam harris here on youtube..he's a neuroscientist..very well thought out video.

[itzahazylife]

@WILLTHEWGMAN

i don't care what courts say..i care what neuroscientists say..that's your problem..u don't look toward the proper sources for information..u look toward whatever supports your preconceived conclusions..wanna actually learn about the science of free will?..read what NEUROSCIENTISTS have to say..they study the brain!..

"One significant finding of modern studies is that a person's brain seems to commit to certain decisions before the person becomes aware of having made them"

[itzahazylife]

@drjackflash

i criticize things i feel are falsehoods..and yeah, i'm good at it because i'm a thinking person..i question things..i question MYSELF also..that's what a critical mind does..so thank you for the compliment..

and yeah, i guess no intelligent person uses curse words..here i'll make u happy..this video has nothing to do with what values christians promote..remove your cranium from your hind quarters.

[drjackflash]

@itzahazylife Very true, all you are goo at is criticizing values. We finally agree. Nice profanity by the way, it is always the way the uneducated try to drive their point home.

[WILLTHEWGMAN]

@itzahazylife

Speak for yourself, human free-will of choice in actions and thus being culpable for said actions is self-evident. ALL the justice systems of the world both past and present are founded on this basic principle and None could exist without this. I would love for you to try and use this, "Humans don't have free-will" to get out of you committing a crime anywhere in the world, it will not work and this is a testament of the truth in humans having free-will in choice as an absolute.