China - Land of the Qin (Re: Manchu history - 4. Qing dynasty is NOT China)

This video is in response to "Manchu history - 4. Qing dynasty is NOT China" and apparently, the user "realtruehistory" does not want this video to be pasted in his video as a response for some ulterior reasons. The problem lies in the word China. China is just a word meaning 'land of the Qin'. It's a reference by the West to the Qin Dynasty over 22 centuries ago. Now we call our nation 中国(zhongguo), abbrevation for 中华民国（zhonghua minguo meaning ROC), or 中华人民共和国（zhonghua renmin gongheguo meaning PRC). Before the creation of ROC in 1912, we call our nation by the name of the kingdoms or dynasties. So if China now means 中国（zhongguo）, then of course Qing is not part of China as the word zhongguo is not created before the end of the Qing Dynasty. However, if China means the history, civilisation of our people, then of course Qing Dynasty is part of China. This video depicts the empire that gave birth to the word China.

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• zhongguo
• China
• Qin
• Dynasty
• Empire
• Manchu
• Qing
• name
• land of the Qin
• ancient
• military
• warfare
• ancient Shaanxi music

[UnitedPebbles]

There are no such thing as "Han" people. It is a name of a dynasty, for the purpose of unify the nation for easier control. Haha, Manchou influences are shown in modern Chinese writing and dialect, Mandarin!!! It is a Northern tongue..let's faced it, it is still politics matter that never was resolved.

[theboyuan0jcfan]

@UnitedPebbles yes, Han is a dynasty. After the nomadic invasion of AD 4th century, indigneous populance was forced to migrant to the south, keeping in mind of restoring their lost territory, hence a unified identity was formed, named after the previous greatest dynasty: Han. Mandarin is based on northern Chinese dialect, although not totally northern dialect.

[DragonOfQin]

@F0reseer No difference. They are the same people. Han was both Legalism and Confucianism. Qin was Legalism. If Qin was not overthrown there wouldn't be Hans but Qin Chinese today. Han Dynasty just followed through Qin system. Same language, weights, measurements, Legalism, etc under Han banner. So what is your point? Han lasted 4 centuries while Qin 15 years. Thus Chinese identity forged under Han.

[F0reseer]

@DragonOfQin When Qin started to suck Qins rebelled. And then after a while started to call themselves Han. See the difference?

[DragonOfQin]

@F0reseer of course. When Qin started to suck Hans rebelled. How many times did Hans rebel? Just count how many dynasties Hans got.

[F0reseer]

@DragonOfQin well I'm sure when the Qing started to suck again towards the end, the Hans minded them again.

[DragonOfQin]

@F0reseer Yes they did under the first few Emperors such as Kangxi and QianLong.

[F0reseer]

@DragonOfQin so what you're saying is that Hans did mind the Qing.