@M1jN What does science say about a class A/B fire with a dull red-orange diffuse flame? Can you tell the temp of a carbon based fire by the flame color? You can. What does all that smoke tell you, engineer? Scientific observation is something they dont teach anymore?
@IranContraScumDid911 Candles burn with a full visible spectrum, most wavelengths around 570 nm. The WTC fire on the exterior of the building burns with redder wavelengths in the visible spectrum (around 590 nm). The WTC fire on the exterior of the building has more smoke, so candles would appear more efficient. However, you cannot see the full WTC fire whatsoever. It is internally-housed and IT'S AN ACRE IN DIAMETER. Are you an engineer judging a fire by its edges? Every flame has red edges.
@M1jN What is the visible spectrum of a candle vs. the visible spectrum of these fires? Which is brighter? Which has more smoke? Which is far more efficient in combustion? Which is releasing the potential energy in the fuel more efficiently? If they are both carbon based fires what are we seeing in comparison to the other? Which would be hotter? Prove to me you are an engineer ..... in your own words. I bet a million bucks your a rookie, that is just learning all this. Real world is not school.
@M1jN You are a combustion engineer? You should understand stoiciometric efficiency and the fire tetrahedron. The heat cannot be high because there is not enough oxygen in that smoke filled enclosed space. You would know candles burn far more efficiently than these fires. The light spectrum of the diffuse flame (color) and the smoke to flame ratio .... engineer. Your a fraud, or a bad combustion engineer. A candle is hotter than the fires in the WTC, thats how. These fires are 200C+
@M1jN If the fires are 1500-2000 degrees plus inside the building would the exterior surface heat up to more than 59 degrees (ambient)? Forget the FLIR, lets test it with the visible spectrum. The fires are dull orange which tells us they are at the low end of the heat spectrum. The fires are poorly combusted. An inefficient combustion fails to convert the CO-CO2 gasses and does not burn all the fuel, cannot exceed 30% potential heat. This is confirmed in the very high smoke to small flame ratio
@M1jN I am a mechanical engineer, I am also a mechanical contractor, I spoecialize in hydronic heating. Boilers, pumps, furnaces, and water ..... AND building heating loads. I do it every day. I think you are real stupid, honestly. How are you going to check all the insulation and wall temps in a large commercial building without a FLIR camera? Feel it with your hands for a few days, maybe get a lift to feel the ceilings? YOUR an idiot!!! You use a FLIR Camera to see the envelope performence
@M1jN I know that idiot, I am looking at the heat signature or lack of one in the mass of the wall. You can tell what is inside the wall, where the structural; members are, where it is insulated, even how insulated it is. I detect duct and envelope leakage, cool or warm air. I can tell if it is hot INSIDE an electric pump or motor by the surface temp. We can tell how hot the buiulding is being heated, by its surface temp. Two of our cameras go from 2 feet to miles in their reading distrance.
@M1jN I am a PE. I have used these for years in preventive maintenance of electrical and mechanical equipment. I am now the COO of a engineering firm. We currently have both Exetech and FLIR cameras. The models are single handed. We now use them primarily for detecting heat leakage from building envelopes and for ductwork. I look into walls and find missing insulation, INTO the wall. They are very useful in detecting wear, loose connections, or inefficiency in electric motors and pumps as well
@IranContraScumDid911
No, they don't teach anything related to science and math in the US anymore. Hence the country has fallen behind.
They concentrate on more important things, like football. LOL that's why I hate this fucking place. The country deserves another 9/11.
FLICKtheUSA 5 months ago
@M1jN What does science say about a class A/B fire with a dull red-orange diffuse flame? Can you tell the temp of a carbon based fire by the flame color? You can. What does all that smoke tell you, engineer? Scientific observation is something they dont teach anymore?
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@M1jN I am applying the fire tetrahedron to a fire .... you have a better benchmark?
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@IranContraScumDid911 Candles burn with a full visible spectrum, most wavelengths around 570 nm. The WTC fire on the exterior of the building burns with redder wavelengths in the visible spectrum (around 590 nm). The WTC fire on the exterior of the building has more smoke, so candles would appear more efficient. However, you cannot see the full WTC fire whatsoever. It is internally-housed and IT'S AN ACRE IN DIAMETER. Are you an engineer judging a fire by its edges? Every flame has red edges.
M1jN 6 months ago
@M1jN What is the visible spectrum of a candle vs. the visible spectrum of these fires? Which is brighter? Which has more smoke? Which is far more efficient in combustion? Which is releasing the potential energy in the fuel more efficiently? If they are both carbon based fires what are we seeing in comparison to the other? Which would be hotter? Prove to me you are an engineer ..... in your own words. I bet a million bucks your a rookie, that is just learning all this. Real world is not school.
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@M1jN You are a combustion engineer? You should understand stoiciometric efficiency and the fire tetrahedron. The heat cannot be high because there is not enough oxygen in that smoke filled enclosed space. You would know candles burn far more efficiently than these fires. The light spectrum of the diffuse flame (color) and the smoke to flame ratio .... engineer. Your a fraud, or a bad combustion engineer. A candle is hotter than the fires in the WTC, thats how. These fires are 200C+
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@M1jN If the fires are 1500-2000 degrees plus inside the building would the exterior surface heat up to more than 59 degrees (ambient)? Forget the FLIR, lets test it with the visible spectrum. The fires are dull orange which tells us they are at the low end of the heat spectrum. The fires are poorly combusted. An inefficient combustion fails to convert the CO-CO2 gasses and does not burn all the fuel, cannot exceed 30% potential heat. This is confirmed in the very high smoke to small flame ratio
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@M1jN I am a mechanical engineer, I am also a mechanical contractor, I spoecialize in hydronic heating. Boilers, pumps, furnaces, and water ..... AND building heating loads. I do it every day. I think you are real stupid, honestly. How are you going to check all the insulation and wall temps in a large commercial building without a FLIR camera? Feel it with your hands for a few days, maybe get a lift to feel the ceilings? YOUR an idiot!!! You use a FLIR Camera to see the envelope performence
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@M1jN I know that idiot, I am looking at the heat signature or lack of one in the mass of the wall. You can tell what is inside the wall, where the structural; members are, where it is insulated, even how insulated it is. I detect duct and envelope leakage, cool or warm air. I can tell if it is hot INSIDE an electric pump or motor by the surface temp. We can tell how hot the buiulding is being heated, by its surface temp. Two of our cameras go from 2 feet to miles in their reading distrance.
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago
@M1jN I am a PE. I have used these for years in preventive maintenance of electrical and mechanical equipment. I am now the COO of a engineering firm. We currently have both Exetech and FLIR cameras. The models are single handed. We now use them primarily for detecting heat leakage from building envelopes and for ductwork. I look into walls and find missing insulation, INTO the wall. They are very useful in detecting wear, loose connections, or inefficiency in electric motors and pumps as well
IranContraScumDid911 6 months ago