Church for Skeptics - Episode 55 - Part 3 of 3

Church for Skeptics - Episode 55 - Part 3 of 3

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• apologetic
• church
• skeptic
• atheism
• jesus

[zam319]

There is no evidence besides the bible that jesus even existed, no credible historians during that time noted him, these guys are full of BULLSHIT. Dont let their big wors fool you.

[darsenault]

If Jesus never existed, how do we explain that Christianity had spread throughout the Roman empire by the time the New Testament was finished, during the lifetime of those who would have known He was a myth?

[zam319]

And how do we know when the new testiment was finished? Its been revised hundreds of times.

[darsenault]

Actually, there are writings of early church fathers that quote from every book in the NT, so it had to be finished first. The Nicene Council confirmed the NT as we have it in 325, so you could use that date, but even liberal scholars would agree by consensus that the last book was written by 100. There are over 5000 complete NT Greek manuscripts. The discussion of when the NT was finished is really not that controversial. Can you think of anyone who even brought it up until the 19th century?

[zam319]

Not that i have any kind of degree, I just reasearch these things out of curiosity. and as insightfull this is it doesnt convince me. Biblical times were poorly documented and people were savages. I find it pretty hard to believe that a guy could go around and convince people that he is doing "miracles". I think its much moe likely that a group of people made it up to gain power through the promise of eternal salvation.

[darsenault]

And yet everyone of the eyewitness apostles, who were in position to know if the resurrection was a fabrication, died as a result, and had no interest in political power. While many have been willing to die for what they believed in, no one will die for what they know to be a lie. When I read the writings of the early church fathers and guys like St. Augustine, I'm blown away by their intellect rather than their savagery.

[BSwitzerland]

Not entirely true. There is evidence of Jesus outside the bible. check it out!!

[deadpooldan]

that is an ignorant assumption, that heaven is boring and that glorifying god seems purposeless. you have answered yourself there - glorifying god means you can get to heaven. the bible (and in fact any religious text that deals with heaven) describes heaven as incredible endless pleasure. assuming it will be boring is just you applying HUAMAN thoughts and ideals to something far beyond human understanding, and humans as a whole. yet thanks to jesus we can make it to heaven to be with him

[TheHonestTheist]

/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U

[swyft187]

2 words:

Weasel program.

Look it up.

[zam319]

Have, there is none execpt of the fact that records say someone named jesus was crucified which is not nearly evidence enough for any sane person.