zizek on living healthy

A clip from Reality of the virtual where Zizek talks about new age living.In some times you could eat chocolate and feel good.Now you feel guilty.

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[rpcarnell]

What a shame he never debated Hitchens.

[ThwartedVillainy]

@rpcarnell If Zizek debated Hitchens, the entire debate would consist of Zizek making his opening remarks for 90 minutes and Hitchens making sure he never saw the bottom of his whiskey glass.

[codyStrode]

@iAzurisa I think he puts it nicely when he talks about being psycho analyzed. When a person is in therapy the can be a "burden" or " upset at external factors. a patient to be happy or in pursuit of some socially acceptable happiness. You know, because typically we are expected not to complain, "dig with in" and like he said, almost feel pity for others if we can't function.Some therapists are really good with Socratic questioning though. So, they empower patients to "enjoy" lowkey.

[codyStrode]

lol I've been following his videos a lot lately because he's interesting in funny but strait up....is romantic with that white lady? snow boarding? on that Freud? hahaha

[IStehSHIT]

@iAzurisa but still then you are doing the none´njoyment-thing" in the name of enjoyment:) I get your point and I find it reasonable.

My point is => place for no enjoyment can not be a place where you are at to gain enjoyment.

[iAzurisa]

@IStehSHIT Also when I was talking about temperance I was referring to socrates and the stoics who stated that "virtue is sufficient for happiness." We can never be happy indulging in pleasures as we will always want more so to practice virtues and control our passions as to overcome our desires will lead us to true freedom and happiness.

[iAzurisa]

@IStehSHIT For example, there is the study of the marshmellow test where someone gives a child a marshmellow and gives them the choice of eating it now or waiting 10 minutes and instead of just one marshmellow they will get two. The kids who waited which was 1 out of 3 ended up living better lives, practicing more self control and having an over all happier as an adult as opposed to the kids who didn't show self control.

[iAzurisa]

@IStehSHIT "You are allowed to not enjoy" as I understand it is not a state of non enjoyment but rather just a statement to elevate the guilt and pressure of having the freedom to not participate in a permissive activity. Regarding not enjoying something now to enjoy it in the future being a false state, I'm not so sure. I think it's really avoiding instant gratification in order to gain something better out of it...

[IStehSHIT]

@iAzurisa exaclty! and my question is, if i do this "temeprance as in the virtue" I don't have nonpleashuement for my eyes, but pleashure, I'm doing so that i will recive pleashure. I don't understand the "you are allowed to not enjoy" as a form of saving up, but as a form of state wholly disconected from any form of enjoyment if I am in a state of "not enjoyment" only for the sake of enjoyment in the future, it is a false state because it exist only for my enjoyment. what do you say?

[iAzurisa]

@iAzurisa You might enjoy these activities now*

[iAzurisa]

@IStehSHIT I think what you mean is temeprance as in the virtue. Which is a good thing as you are thinking ahead and realising that these things might enjoy you now but in the future it will hurt you therefore you are not indulging in the present time in order to avoid the negative effects it will have in the future.

[iAzurisa]

@IStehSHIT Zizek is talking about the fact that we now have pressure in society to actually enjoy having sex with no love, to enjoy money, power etc. Because there are no social prohibitions anymore as we live in a permissive and "free" society. So we are expected to enjoy these things, now the problem arises when we don't want to enjoy having sex with no love we feel as if there is something wrong with us. "you are allowed to not enjoy"