A response to a video that Turretinfan has made in regards to my video on Cardinal Cajetan.
Mr. Fan not only mispronounces Cajetan, giving his "American"ized slant to the pronunciation, but he continues in his blunders.
We'll examine his claims here
Tomas de Vio Cajetan
COMMENTARY ON THE BOOK OF ESTHER
The Church receives such books, permitting the faithful to read them, the Church also reads them in her offices on account of the many devout things which they contain. But the Church obliges no one necessarily to believe what is contained therein, which is the case with the books of Wisdom, Sirach, Maccabees, Judith, and Tobit.
For though these books are received by Christians, and proof derived from them may, in some way or other, have weight, because the Church retains those books; yet they are not effectual for proving those things which are in doubt, against heretics or Jews.
We here terminate our commentaries on the books of Judith, Tobit, and the Maccabees, which are reckoned by Jerome without the canonical books, and are placed among the apocrypha, together with Wisdom and Sirach as appears in his Prologus Geleatus. Nor should you be disturbed, o novice, if you should anywhere find those books reckoned among the canonical books, either in the holy councils, or in the holy doctors. For the words of the councils, as well as of the doctors, are to be submitted to the correction of Jerome, and according to his judgment to the bishops CHROMATIUS and HELIODORUS, those books are not canonical, that is, they are not those which are given as a rule for the confirmation of the faith. They may, however, be called canonical for the edification of the faithful; since they are received and authorized in the Canon of the Bible for this purpose
@RPenta
In Augustines day there was not the schism nor the split we see in this day.
I base my claim on Jerome and all of his many adherents and followers. Jerome and those who agreed with him not only defined but used a canon other than the one defined at Trent.
SolaChristo 1 year ago
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A day which was Catholic or Catholic and Orthodox if you will although the Church sees those ancient and apostolic sees of Jerusalem, Antioch, Constantinople, and Alexandria, as essential branches or members of the family if you will.
Defining is one thing; that was done in reaction to the Protestants but usage and recognition is another.
RPenta 1 year ago
@RPenta
Augustine was a product of his day.
My comment was on the canon not on Augustine.
The Catholic Canon was not finalized until Trent and as a reaction to Protestant claims.
SolaChristo 1 year ago
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By the way, other than the fact that St. Augustiine was:
1. A Saint of the Roman Catholic Church-his currency in the EO goes up and down;
2. A Father of the Roman Church
3. A Bishop
4. A Priest who celebrated Mass
5. All of the above who recognized the Pope as the successor of St. Peter
6. A theologian who accepted the "Roman" canon of the OT--
but he was basically one of you guys.
RPenta 1 year ago
Catholic arguements in favor of their cannon are indefensible.
SolaChristo 2 years ago
Nice video man :)
Silly protestant arguments.
BusterBlueBottle 2 years ago