THE BIBLICAL DOCTRINE OF PRE-TRIB RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH 2

The Danger of teaching a non-pre-trib rapture of the church, warnings from Paul and Peter.

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[mytreasure777]

I would not advice anyone to rely on the salvation after the rapture. Now The Holy Spirit has been poured down on earth to save people, His work is extremely powerful to convince people to get saved, we are immersed in the salvation influence of Him.

After the rapture when He is taken out of the way, God is not only restraining His work, will work against salvation of people by a deluding spirit.

So the warning of preachers to get saved now are founded, God is using now the full power.

[mytreasure777]

It is also true that the two witnesses and the their fruit, the 144000 witnesses, will also preach under the power of the Holy Spirit, but the ministry of the Holy Spirit will be totally different than that during church age.

The Holy Spirit was on earth before the Pentecost, John20:22, yet He was sent-poured from heaven at Pentecost. At rapture He will be called back to heaven from the 'pouring work' but He will continue to be present on earth. So 'he' in 2Th2:7 is the Holy Spirit.

[Myhopeisinhim]

@mytreasure777

Remember the bible tells us that by the mouths of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. Can you find another verse that shows the tribulation starting after the Holy Spirit is removed?

[mytreasure777]

@Myhopeisinhim

When the Lord was tempted He answered with only one passage, When the Sadducees tried to mock the resurrection the Lord used also just one passage, Ex 3:6. To make some doctrines clear many pieces are put together, like the author of Hebrews does in Heb 2. So, Joel 2:28-32, the Holy Spirit poured in tribulation proves that was removed previously and take then take another passage where the church is removed and you have the Holy Spirit 'out of the way (midst)' as in Col 2:14.

[mytreasure777]

The Holy Spirit was present on earth even before Pentecost and people were saved also.

After the rapture God will send a spirit of delusion, 2Th2:11, meaning the Holy Spirit will not work to convince people of their sins, John16:8, but only assist those choosing not to obey the Antichrist, Mar13:11.

Rapture will be the reverse of Pentecost (so here is the pre-trib rapture).

Another pouring of the Holy Spirit will be for Israel just before the second coming, Zec12:10.

[RememberPaulRevere]

Isaiah 28:12-13 ""..yet they would not hear" But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, line upon line,..that they might go, ball backward, be broken, snared and taken.

Isaiah 28:14-22 Who is "death"? Christ defeated him, so what does that mean to you?

[RememberPaulRevere]

"The Danger of teaching a non-pre-trib rapture of the church, warnings from Paul and Peter."

Jesus tells us as do EVERY prophet in the bible. They warn us about FALSE PROPHETS....when are people gonna READ and understand the Word as written and not based on misinterpretation of fearful men?

Jer 14:13-16

Those "taken" are taken by the anti-christ. Those left are STILL working in the field having patience, trusting in Our Lord until the 7th Trump when He returns HERE, then we gather unto Him.

[Myhopeisinhim]

@lorijeans59

Ya, i think we need to be careful and not consider those who believe in a post trib or pre wrath rapture as scoffers because they do believe in th return of christ.

When do you believe the trib started? And do you believe the trib is a 7 year period?

[Myhopeisinhim]

now I'm not saying michael is the withholder but you have to admit that that verse is closer than anything on can find pertaining to the Spirit of God being removed before to catapult this world into the trib.

[Myhopeisinhim]

@mytreasure777

i think you may be misquoting joel 2:28. Do you remember in the book of acts 2:14+. The outpouring of the Spirit spoken in Joel occurred at pentacost. The people didn't understand what was happening and so Peter explained it to them. There is no verse that says the Spirit must be removed for trib to start.

There is however a verse in the old testament that speaks of Michael standing up and then a time of trouble greater than anything before rises.

[lorijeans59]

THIS ISSUE HERE IS NOT THAT THERE WILL B A RAPTURE cause we all know yhat it will happen. This issue is the timing. Since we are in tribulation at this second and the rapture clearly is stated in Rev 11 to happen at the sounding of the 7th and final trumpet, the rapture can not b pre trib or mid trib, but has to b pre wrath. That means right before the 3rd woe and b4 GOD'S wrath is poured out of the vials onto the wicked.At that time we are removed to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb Peace to you

[rossdaboss1959]

@AMATTEROFTRUTH It's not true at all what you're saying. And remember Galatians 1:6-9. Don't be cursed. It's not about what u think or say, it's about what the Holy Ghost teaches u from the word of God. First, one need to have the Holy Ghost before they start trying to teach anything. 1 Corinthians 2:11-14. U need the spirit to be able to understand what the Bible is really saying. Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation for all people. Have u received it yet? It's real!

[rossdaboss1959]

@victoriabenn People are getting things mixed up first because many don't even have the Holy Ghost to teach them. Second, many are thinking that the church has taken the place of Israel. That's why they can't understand that the rapture is for the church n the second coming is for Israel. Don't u see that the church n Israel are both on the earth now? Acts 2;38 is still God's plan of salvation for all people. He is not the author of confusion. Jude 14Coming with his saints.