Beijing shuai chiao 3

source from the website of Master John Wang of Austin Texas, www.johnswang.com

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Sports

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• shuai
• chiao
• shuaijiao
• kungfu

[fuckyoucibaikia]

Did you ever stop to think that it's the practitioner that is sloppy and not the style itself?

[GuamKomudo]

You do realize this is the base of Judo and Jujutsu right? These techniques were taken to Japan with the Chinese, Judo is a very modern art, but its techniques can be traced back 5000 years ago in China =) Judo is probly alittle better looking and maby more effective in some areas do to the fact its had 5000 years to better itself lol

[1NX9]

@masteringwushu

Thank you! I voted you up too! ^_^

[masteringwushu]

@1NX9 just voted up your comment.

[1NX9]

@Nhia89

So does judo.

[1NX9]

@masteringwushu

said "shuai jiao is intergrated in many traditional styles of wushu".

(respectfully)

Only a number of techniques. Shuai jiao wrestling by itself has far more techniques than many of the "wushu" (striking) styles out there.

[Zhilitasha]

Based on the comments by the user Thaiboxer, he certainly does not know much about Shuaijiao, Jujutsu and Judo. I will not reply to his comments anymore as it is a complete waste of time. The Chinese origin of Kito-Ryu and Yoshin-Ryu is well-documented in Japanese official historical sources by the Tokugawa Government, as every Dojo had to get licence from the local Daimyo with clear record of lineage. His comparison of O Soto Gari to "Diagonal Cut" is also wrong, assuming he means Qie Zi.

[Zhilitasha]

@thaiboxer5 No, the principles are very similar: circular movements using minimum power to win. The main difference is categorizations of Waza in Kodokan Judo, which is very different from Yoshin-Ryu and Beijing-Shuaijiao.

[Zhilitasha]

@thaiboxer5 Research using Google is for high school kids. Not for a retired university professor like myself.

The origins of Kito-Ryu and Yoshin-Ryu are well documented in many Japanese sources. For a summary in Japanese with partial English translation, read the book '图說柔術' by 小佐野淳 (Osano Jun). The English title at book cover is 'Yawara - The Ancient Japanese Martial Art of Jujutsu', and at the inside-back: Nihon Jujutsu Illustrated - Methods and Techniques'. ISBN4-88317-355-0.

[thaiboxer5]

@Zhilitasha in principle, judo and shuai chiao are way different - they LOOK alike, for example, diagonal cut looks like o soto gari, and a lot of the leg reaping techniques look like variations of uchi mata and harai goshi, but the principle is different. judo seeks to off balance, then throw. sumo and shuai chiao are more "violent" in that sense. A shuai chiao guy will just hit you to set up his throw. his off balance technique is not so gentle.

[thaiboxer5]

@Zhilitasha that actually isn't proven. you can google a bunch of different origins. another so called factual origin is that there were 5 physicians, each skilled in a different aspect of fighting. these five collaborated and formed the first jujutsu style. I have also seen that the five physicians also knew only one joint lock and fused their knowledge to create the first 5 locks of jujutsu, and the rest evolved afterward.

[Zhilitasha]

@bigfatdick5000 There are six main lineages of Jujitsu, and 3 of them have recorded Chinese linegae, i.e. founders trained under Chinese. Only the Daito-Ryu has misty lineage history, and presumably no contact with Chinese lineage. It is also the "youndest" lineage, i.e. all the claims have no traceable records other than what they claim.