THis is truely beautiful. I have trained in ju jitsu for 5 years now and I am now learning tai chi and it is opening my mind up to the concepts of ju jitsu in a way I didn't think possible. I also have been looking into xing yi and ba gua an now I find this. I am impressed by the way you have brought these principles together and I feel more inspired. Well done and thank you for sharing this...
@Nhan01 No such things as Shorinjin in the first place. If you said that to a Japanese they'd look at you like you were nuts, because it is bad grammar. That whole story just doesn't add up with what is known about Japanese history. As far as the "jitsu" "jutsu" thing, well that's not entirely the problem. There's also the "nin" kanji that is displayed, which no matter how you read it means the same thing as the "nin" in ninja, and which can also be read...SHINOBI.
Due to none too careful transliteration, the art of the Ninja was originally written with the Americanized "jitsu" rather than the more correct "jutsu." Mark Saito, Sr. had always used the term "jitsu" and made no effort to change it to "jutsu." In fact, he remained adamant that his art was not the art of Ninjutsu: "This is the art of Shorinjin-ryu Saito Ninjitsu--we are not Ninja! This art was granted to the Saito family by the Shorinjin and is highly revered; not for assassins."
@brownsound1 alright I warned you about taking information out of context but you obviously don't care so I'm not arguing with you anymore. I'm just putting out this quote and I'm done talking to you.
@Nhan01 Considering the kanji used, then that is EXACTLY what it implies. As far as claiming to be ninja...NOBODY can claim that. However, you are claiming to teach ninjutsu, which is what the Kanji read on your arts website. So either Saito doesn't know Japanese, or there is some shennanigans going on. All one has to do is look at any number of martial arts websites and do a search on this art. If you enjoy being lied to in what you train in, then knock yourself out.
@brownsound1 Terminology and techniques were adapted to make new ones, sometimes for the better. And another thing, nobody said ninja and that's not what it implies. Saito plainly stated that we aren't ninja and we don't claim to be ninja so just stop right there. Did you even read the website completely or are you taking information out specifically just to make your argument right?
And another thing, learning what you like isn't wrong no matter what you say.
@Nhan01 Um, then why are you guys attempting to use Japanese terminology if it is Chinese. I'll tell you why...because it "implies" ninja and that sells. That's wrong, pure and simple. The whole story about where this art originates just doesn't add up. You've been had.
Maui Saito is the current Soke of Saito Ninjitsu. He teaches in Arizona.
shoshinsha1 2 months ago
THis is truely beautiful. I have trained in ju jitsu for 5 years now and I am now learning tai chi and it is opening my mind up to the concepts of ju jitsu in a way I didn't think possible. I also have been looking into xing yi and ba gua an now I find this. I am impressed by the way you have brought these principles together and I feel more inspired. Well done and thank you for sharing this...
DrSpooglemon 11 months ago
This is all very interesting on several levels. :)
MstrTchr1 1 year ago
what the heck is this?
fardisghomeshi 1 year ago
@Nhan01 No such things as Shorinjin in the first place. If you said that to a Japanese they'd look at you like you were nuts, because it is bad grammar. That whole story just doesn't add up with what is known about Japanese history. As far as the "jitsu" "jutsu" thing, well that's not entirely the problem. There's also the "nin" kanji that is displayed, which no matter how you read it means the same thing as the "nin" in ninja, and which can also be read...SHINOBI.
brownsound1 1 year ago
Due to none too careful transliteration, the art of the Ninja was originally written with the Americanized "jitsu" rather than the more correct "jutsu." Mark Saito, Sr. had always used the term "jitsu" and made no effort to change it to "jutsu." In fact, he remained adamant that his art was not the art of Ninjutsu: "This is the art of Shorinjin-ryu Saito Ninjitsu--we are not Ninja! This art was granted to the Saito family by the Shorinjin and is highly revered; not for assassins."
Nhan01 1 year ago
@brownsound1 alright I warned you about taking information out of context but you obviously don't care so I'm not arguing with you anymore. I'm just putting out this quote and I'm done talking to you.
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 Considering the kanji used, then that is EXACTLY what it implies. As far as claiming to be ninja...NOBODY can claim that. However, you are claiming to teach ninjutsu, which is what the Kanji read on your arts website. So either Saito doesn't know Japanese, or there is some shennanigans going on. All one has to do is look at any number of martial arts websites and do a search on this art. If you enjoy being lied to in what you train in, then knock yourself out.
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 Terminology and techniques were adapted to make new ones, sometimes for the better. And another thing, nobody said ninja and that's not what it implies. Saito plainly stated that we aren't ninja and we don't claim to be ninja so just stop right there. Did you even read the website completely or are you taking information out specifically just to make your argument right?
And another thing, learning what you like isn't wrong no matter what you say.
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 Um, then why are you guys attempting to use Japanese terminology if it is Chinese. I'll tell you why...because it "implies" ninja and that sells. That's wrong, pure and simple. The whole story about where this art originates just doesn't add up. You've been had.
brownsound1 1 year ago