Ron Paul on the American Civil War

Meet the Press, December 23, 2007

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[KayBeeEee1983]

I guess you're not aware that the island on which Fort Sumter was built was a man made island, constructed and financed entirely by the federal government, and South Carolina sold the title and all rights to the new island to the federal government.

The southern states refused to even discuss the future abolition of slavery. They hoped and planned for slavery to last for eternity.

[RonPaulHatesBlacks]

I don't hate anyone. I just think racism and slavery are wrong. You're free to disagree. Most Paul sheeple do.

[Lubbockrebel]

Ron Paul was born in the North, but he is one of the good ones ...unlike Old HatesBlacks.

[KayBeeEee1983]

Yes, I received a notice.

[Rundstedt1]

Shit, the inbox in the video manger section. Damn Utube. I'm really getting sick of them screwing what was a good idea up by 'making it better'

[Rundstedt1]

OK Where is the Inbox on this new format? Do you receive a notice of this comment?

[KayBeeEee1983]

It doesn't need to. It's inherent in the nature of a compact. Can states be kicked out of the Union? If not, then states can't unilaterally secede either, because it's the same thing.

“An inference from the doctrine that a single state has a right to secede at will from the rest, is that the rest would have a right to secede from it; in other words, to turn it, against its will, out of its union with them.”

-- James Madison

[Rundstedt1]

LOL, no he's a respected Civil War historian. Sorry, the actual Civil War historians say you are wrong and have shown nothing but outright lies and half truths that equate to lies.

"Within the profession [historians] there's virtually no discussion or debate left of slavery as central to the antebellum south and the fundamental cause of secession and the war." Dr. Eric Walther of University of Houston

[Rundstedt1]

Why do you think you know more than Madison, the father of the document?

"It is the nature & essence of a compact that it is equally obligatory on the parties to it, and of course that no one of them can be liberated therefrom without the consent of the others,...

Applying a like view of the subject to the case of the U. S. it results, that the compact being among individuals as imbodied into States, no State can at pleasure release itself therefrom, and set up for itself." - Madison

[Rundstedt1]

There is no unilateral secession in the constitution And the vague excuse of the 10th amendment cannot be used, as the 10th only is concerning issues that affect the state, while unilateral secession effects the entire nation, and as secession would be rejecting federal authority, it would also be unconstitutional per the supremacy clause that makes the constitution the supreme law of the land. And very plainly in Art I sec 10: "No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation"

[Rundstedt1]

Even historians from the South say you are wrong.

"Slavery is the major cause of the Civil War. Anyone that denies that is a bad student of history."

- James I. Robertson in "Education week" "150 Years Later: Primary Sources, Technology Bring Civil War to Life" By Erik Robelen on April 12, 2011.