Pioneer Drum & Bugle Corps 2008 @ Dekalb, IL

We practiced 2 days at Northern Illinois University and this is the last run through there. Also for many years this was the home of the drum corps midwest championships.

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[piobari]

All the brass staff has top 12 experience in dci and dca, visual caption head marched phantom in 91 and 92. Drum line has usually beaten a few other drumlines each year.

[piobari]

Ok pio has a great staff this year. The brass caption head is in his 3rd year at pio and most of the brass visual and color guard staff is back from last year. The percussion staff is mostly made of the staff from the indoor drumline that has won 2 wgi titles in the past 3 years. This years show the opener is irish, but its a more contemporary irish and the closer is not irish at all. Also I recently spent a week volunteering with the corps and they moved up about 5 points in about 3 shows.

[weshender]

Have you marched drum corps? When you march for a Corp like Pio you do not base your summer on were you place, rather on the successful accomplishment of a grater goal.

The way Pio rolling this year I could see a step up in the overall standings. Pio was great in many ways last year and will be great for many years to come.

.....by doing the very best at all times we will have a winning corps.

That is all that matters

[kylosme]

i loved it rehearsing there it was fun

[trumpetofyhvh]

Pioneer has finished in last place six of the last seven years, finishing second to last place once. Pioneer has most of the same staff who have a solid history of losing. What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Without reason this discussion started because of Pioneer hype that Pioneer would make 17th place or better. Pioneer is currently in 21st place, and only .5 points from last place. So why is Pioneer 2009 now any different ?

[trumpetofyhvh]

If you would have read the post*, you would have seen that the 63.680 was Pioneer's average score based upon their last five scores. As far as DCI brass experience, DCI style is what DCI brass judges are looking for, DCA style is what they definitely don't want to hear.

*"based upon the last 5 shows Pioneer is currently ranked 21st ". As of last night, based on the newest scores, Pioneer is in second to last place, ann they are only .5 from being in last place.

[tunks809]

I don't know where you're getting 63.680. Pioneer's Last Score was 66.5, just in case you haven't heard about ceadarburg.

[trumpetofyhvh]

What Pioneer is doing is not working. Be honest, take a look at Pioneer's placements:

2009 ? ( Currenly in 2nd to last)

2008 Last Place

2007 Last Place

2006 Last Place

2005 2nd to Last Place

2004 Last Place

2003 Last Place

2002 Last Place

Wishing Pioneer Well in 09.

[trumpetofyhvh]

Please, don't be silly. Where is your evidence that Pioneer can beat a corps on the level of the Academy?

I like Pioneer , but they are not even close to competing on a corps like the Academy's level. Pioneer will have to beat a corps like the Academy in order to make semi finals. Let's be honest, to date, Pioneer is not even close.

[trumpetofyhvh]

Pioneer does not compete in the top division in WGI Indoor. Pioneer's 09 staff has very little top 12 DCI experience, either in marching or teaching. Pioneer has finished last or second to last place for most of the decade. What Pioneer is doing is not working. Let Roman Jr. run the corps, lose the hats, recruit staff with top 12 DCI not DCA teaching - or marching experience and work on improving recruiting. Pioneer is more like an open class corps, but there is no money if you compete there.

[trumpetofyhvh]

Be realistic, in San Antonio, Atlanta and Indianapolis, Pioneer finishes 21st. Pioneer does not have the right staff or enough talented kids to make semis. Look at the bright side, Pioneer won't be in last place this year. Be happy about that.

[trumpetofyhvh]

Unless a miracles happens, most likely this will be the year that Pioneer beats the Cascades, and no other corps. Pioneer in 09 is nowhere ready to be able to beat The Academy, who they currently would have to beat to make semis, Pioneer is currently 6 points behind the Academy.