Bible Pro Abortion?

Ecclesiastes 6:3-5

Ecclesiastes 4:1-3

Exodus 21:22-25

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[EquitesVeritatis]

@SecularTalk, you sir look like a walking vagina. But then again what other people on the face of this planet have defeated themselves as soundly as the white people ;)

[EquitesVeritatis]

@chakra25king Science also says that DRD4 is the cheating gene. Science is also finding other genes responsible for certain behaviour traits. Ever heard of the term eugenics? Consider that your pre antiquity form of it. Think thats cruel? Eugenics is still going on TODAY.

[chakra25king]

the bible also says if your wife cheats on you and gets pregnant you have to go an' eject da boy! i'm paraphrasing but its in their. theirs a few more too.

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...the Catholic church would be involved in both. But to place the blame like that is inaccurate. As someone mentioned, there are over a million abortions per year just in the US, so that is an equally important injustice to seek to end. By saying that Christians should focus on the "downtrodden," as you put it, and not on ending an injustice like abortion, you are implying that no Christian does anything for those in poverty. That's simply not the case.

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...Lastly, I'll comment on your closing remarks. While it's true that we could all do a better job of being Christlike and helping the poor, as you mention, that doesn't negate the efforts pro-lifers do in trying to end abortion. Would you critique the American Cancer Society for not doing enough to end AIDS? Of course not. That is not their stated goal. Likewise, pro-life groups are geared to ending abortion, not poverty. Many work towards ending poverty as well. Ideally, yes, ...

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...child is referred to as better off when compared to a wealthy man whose soul is not satisfied, but not better off than one who lives and whose soul is satisfied. In the case of the verse, a wealthy man who does not find that satisfaction in his soul will experience more earthly anxiety and distress than the stillborn child, because the stillborn will obviously not experience any in this earth. Again, this says nothing about abortion.

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...or was aborted. Lastly, you reference Ecc. 6. This one, you are right, does talk about a stillborn (or miscarried) child. But again, this is as a result of chance not of an individual forcibly ending the life of the child in the womb. A miscarriage is far from an abortion. Here, though the author acknowledges the tragedy, he realized that the stillborn child goes to the same place as one who lives and dies, i.e., the grave. But, he makes an important distinction. The stillborn...

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...Had there been any damage, up to and including a death, then the punishment would have been more severe. This verse can't be used as a commentary on abortion, then, since the child in question doesn't die. The verse from Ecc. 4 is an even further stretch on your part, since it makes no reference to a child in a womb. It simply says one who never existed. Given all the scripture to acknowledge of a child being known in the womb, we can't assume this means a fetus who died...

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...which means, "to bear" and is translated in the Hebrew Bible as "childbirth" 10 times, "gave birth" 50 times, and "bore" or "born" 180 times. Yasa means "to go out." When you look at how it is used, it describes a living thing, such as Genesis 1:24, where it says, "Let the earth bring forth "living" creatures..." The point in all that is that it is not referring to a miscarriage, but rather a premature birth. Since the baby lives, and nobody is injured, there is simply a fine....

[IRuleSSB]

@SecularTalk ...More than likely, you're referring to an old version of the NASB translation. That translation, updated in 1995, currently reads: "If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely..." Note that it says, "give birth," not, "miscarries." The Hebrew in question here is the key. The Hebrew contains a combination of a noun, yeled, and a verb, yasa. Literally, it means, "the child comes forth." Yeled comes from the root word yalad...