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Uploaded by on Sep 11, 2007

8th Documented Video Test of a DUAL 4 Plate HHO Cell w/ Distilled Water and Sodium-Bicarbonate and Sodium-Biphosphate as Electrolyte (2 teaspoons of both).

HHO-Cell Basic PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) Test:

..Results.will.be.posted..

Our PWM unit consists of a basic 555-timer circuit, tied into a darlington pair transistor intergrated circuit to drive the coil on our relay. This a rudimentary set-up to experiment with some type of on/off state to simulate a solid-state pulse width modulator for cutting Amperage on the cell. Making the voltage do the work..

Upgrades to HHO-Cell: Attached Bubbler for safety precaution resulting in possible ignition of vapor into the cell. Also a permanent thermometer for further studying the hho-cell's temperature during operation.

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  • I will check out the most recent videos, earlier today I stumbled across that one...and posted my comment before I saw a more recent one. I am still curious as to what the purpose of the bubbler was on the model I saw. On the model you hooked to your car, you mentioned moisture getting into the intake line. You might try a smaller enclosure that the gas tube runs to first to the bottom of one side, then 2 tubes on the other side, 1 on top and 1 on the bottom.

  • The problem with that enclosure is it is to compact it needs to be larger and more rugged. Otherwise the heat is a huge issue, the plastic degrades when it hits 220F+ (PVC/Schedule-gray[40-80]). That is the problem. Keeping the heat down, and possibly making use of it could be a consideration.

    Regardless, if built properly heat isn't a issue. Limit electrolyte and electricity voltage. Try 5-6Volts to get a grasp on the control over heat, and wire size, amperage etc.

    Regards, --sirHOAX-- :=)

  • 15-20 Amp draw on a vehicle alternator is a very heavy load, and will drastically reduce the life of the alternator. A stronger one is needed, or a reduction in the acidity of the water...making it less conductive. A 7-9 Amp draw is much more ideal.

  • Well if you check some of my recent videos you will see we have fixed this problem. With the use of MOSFET driven circuits for pulsing high-voltage to the HHO-Cell.

    Honestly, the use of the alternator being tied directly to the HHO-Cell is not a design well intended for HHO production. Need a high-side MOSFET driven circuit to boost a type of voltage intensifier for amplification to the HHO-Cell itself.

  • Very easy way to test it, is to see if it burns (produce light blue, almost invisible flame)

  • Will be introducing the HHO gas into a 2-stroke engine (weed wacker). Disconnect the exhaust to see how it changes the flame exiting the exhaust port.

    All these experiments is really for trying to adapt technique for it to be applied to a car.

    Thanks for your insight. Safety is my top concern..

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  • hyedenny dude, lol science out of 1824! Faraday's law you mean.. LMAO, at that time they didn't have PWM's and SS... And they coulden't fly eighter... Science like history is written by winners, and the oil company's won in your head.. Your so funny, just like my cousin.. And even he is experimenting and comming back on that stigma... lol, ignorent people now it all man.. LMFAO really

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  • There is no way this can work. You simply cant get more out than you put in. If hydrogen is the answer, producing it this way makes no sense and the amount produced is so tiny it cant possibly work

  • This is just a guess, but I think the PWM makes it more efficient. Just like the PWM would be on a motor, it can achieve the same effect with less power.

  • this isnt related to hho in any way. but can i bring a flashing circuit of 6vdc to 12vdc without a relay? i cant seem to find a 6v or even 5v relay in any store that isnt online. please someone reply. i am pretty well clueless here. i need to pump at least 300-500 ma and i have no transistors that can handle that amount. and especially not 12 volts either.. their might be a way to pair them up but i doubt it.

  • please..enuff insolence...use a current limiting hho plate ...say two switch plates gapped .035 apart in series with load...current goes up...voltage goes up....limits current and the byproduct isnt waste its hho...why all the crap with pwm?? insolence

  • my god....this isnt PWM at all. Some people just HAVE to do things differently dont they..even if it sux.

    its just turning it on and off ....slowly

    trying using a mosfet driven off ya 555 so that your plates resonate like a capicitor at the resonant frequency...then your HHO will come out of that baby and blow your bubbler water clean out of it. Try it.

  • Why are you using a catalyst...you don't need to add anything to the water when you have a PWM hooked up?

  • PWM (pulse width modulation) won't limit the maximum current -- BUT placing an electrical choke in series with the load will limit the di/dt (change in current per unit change in time). In addition, a choke (preferably a saturable core reactor) in series with the electrical load (your water mixed with a conductive electrolyte), being pulsed with PWM drive would allow you to control the current as a function of the pulse width applied. The shorter the pulse width, the lower the current!

  • Virtually all SSR's use thyristors (SCR's or triacs) for switching which CAN'T turn off unless the current through them falls to zero. They are great for AC (alternating current) loads, but stay ON for DC loads (above a limit called "holding current").

  • Has PWMPower squared up with you? I just ordered an EFIE and would hate to hear that it's a scam.

  • Solid state relay would be better, no clicking noise :)

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