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Consciousness, Qualia, and Self

Dr. V.S. Ramachandran, Director of the Center for Brain and Cognition at UCSD, discusses consciousness, qualia, and self.  
 
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20jazzfunkgreats (1 week ago) Show Hide
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i do not agree- 5 minutes in- that this is uniquely human. what arrogant presumption. and the dropping of brain structure terminology ('inferior parietal lobule' etc) to 'support' the presumption doesn't change the fact that it's merely his conjecture. so only we have self/qualia; only we can plan for the future? absolutely not true.
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Love....a quale?! Love is not a qualitative feeling, c'mon! Types of pain, for example, are qualia.

"Love is not a feeling. Love is put to the test, pain is not. One does not say: 'That was not true pain, or it would not have gone off so quickly.'" - Wittgenstein, Zettel s. 504.

When we say love, do we not mean a commitment (deep than a commitment to, say, pay off a bank loan) which is temporally extended and historical? Animals may be capable of the 'quale' flutter in your stomach.
knocked44 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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how would you know?
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I think he distinctly denied that non-human animals 'simulate' the world in the way humans do.
knocked44 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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leave your love at the door. Its not necessary or relevant to this discussion
toecutterr6 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Certainly it is. Is love a qualiative phenomenon? Do lower primates feel love? Your thirst for a polemical discourse just comes off as puerile and tangential - as is the hallmark with your type.
knocked44 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Your comment was the one that was puerile and tangential. "we love people like Dr. V.S. Ramachandran ..." What the hell does that have to do with this debate? Who cares what you or some 'we' you belong to loves or doesn't love anyway? Its a side note. If you wanted to talk about qualia, why didn't you do so in a less convoluted and ass kissing way?
toecutterr6 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Because we love people that are OPEN MINDED, (unlike yourself). Your mind is a thing of cogs & wheels - a chemistral table of elements if you will...what a horrible, boring and lonely place. Carry on with the electronic pugilism if you must; ad hominems will get you nowhere.
knocked44 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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I'm glad you don't like ad hominem attacks, now if you could only keep your ad hominem analingus to yourself you'd do the community seeking an understanding of consciousness a service. Who is the 'we' you keep referring to? Do you belong to a cult of zombie cheerleaders who cheer it up for academics working on consciousness? Get on with your day job, loser.
toecutterr6 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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The ubiquitous 'We'. The proper adage is, "don't quit your day job". Any other banal platitudes? or shall you continue to just rework what I've already said to pejorative fail? I don't understand your initial complaint anyway? I was having a good time discussing this video with the friends I had sent it to.

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