Alvin Plantinga (Notre Dame) delivers a paper at the 2009 Central Division of the American Philosophical Association in Chicago, entitled "Religion and Science: Where the Real Conflict Lies." Daniel Dennett (Tufts) comments.
No, this is not my recording, but yes, I was at this talk (I actually ask the very first question in the Q&A (I didn't express myself well, but Plantinga seemed to get the jist). I tried to record it, but my camera wasn't working. So I found this recording online, and thought the YouTube community might enjoy.
@CrateofStolenDirt, yes. The CT story is extensive. I'm currently working on a video about it that will explain.
DarkMatter2525 3 months ago
@dooyeweerd, well, well, well. I'm getting messages from good Christians on the inside saying that CT supporters are planning a flagging campaign, and that they're contacting people they know who work for youtube to try to get me shut down. To protect troll accounts?! Not likely. I can see that this is going to get really, really ugly. And to think, it could've all been over, but NOOOOOOOOO. You couldn't have that. You never learn, do you?
DarkMatter2525 3 months ago
there is a vid of plantinga giving the very same talk at biola, with good vid quality
demonstrationclass8 4 months ago
@TheFlamingPromethean
I suspect they would say because God helps those who help themselves.
Avicenna10 5 months ago
Actions speak louder than words:
Why do Christians (who believe in an omnipotent loving father figure) put lightning rods on their churches?
TheFlamingPromethean 8 months ago
@NinjaMatie
I responded to Plantinga's argument here:
watch?v=eU-wpNOyuas
I got better sound quality on another presentation of basically the same argument.
zarkoff45 8 months ago
Did Plantinga retire? He's still on the Notre Dame website. I would have loved to take one of his classes; he sounds like he is a really entertaining professor.
Dennett, on the other hand, would probably bore me to tears.
rumblefishism 11 months ago
@dinkipooxa First off, it's Plantinga that's speaking in this clip, not Dennett. Second, I assure you that both Plantinga and Dennett are well aware of the ambiguities of the term 'belief' and the difficulties of a clear definition of the term--they've both published on the topic in peer reviewed journals. But when giving a public lecture you cannot digress into conceptual analysis of every term, even the central ones, since doing so would take up all your time. Some terms need to be granted.
SisyphusRedeemed 1 year ago