@whiff1962 If you're a fan of personal responsibility, I'd highly recommend reading any of Thomas Szasz's books. He's a psychiatrist who very quickly figured out that psychiatry destroys the idea of personal responsibility and MAKES people irresponsible for their actions. This is very applicable to the legal system where "The twinkies made me do it" and "I was temporarily insane" and variations thereof are commonplace. Great author! His arguments and data are rock solid too.
@whiff1962 I'm also a supporter of the idea that personal responsibility rules the day, and actually IS what makes this society function well. However, in regards to these drugs, I think that if you dig in further to the studies, you'll see where people who previously had no psychotic symptoms take a drug and then end up full-blown psychotic, and when they come off the drug, psychosis ceases. Deep down, there is a responsibility for action, but these drugs have a way of cancelling it.
@whiff1962 I think you're right about the culture of victimhood. It's actually quite childish that people don't take responsibility for their actions; they never really grew up and expect others to feed them, etc..
@cristobalm2010 There is a peculiar culture of victimhood in America, unlike any other culture to date. The nature of victimhood politics has a way of mobilizing public and politician, so that the extremes come to be perceived as the means! I am not arguing about agitation from drug use and withdrawal, just the blaming of drugs on willed behavior!
@whiff1962 Glaxo ending their anti-depressant research says at least one thing for the company: When all is said and done, with what they know they can do with chemicals they use to make anti-depressants, and after all the lawsuits that result from such drugs, they don't think it's profitable to make them anymore. Maybe they expect such lawsuits when dealing in anti-depressants; maybe they expect that entire line of research to be deadly and legally compromising.. I don't know...
@whiff1962 Now if you want to call it a matter of interests that I think it's evil for a company to make a deadly drug, conduct fake safety studies, unethically and illegally misrepresent it to regulatory authorities, and then rake in profit while people actually die, then maybe you're right. It's in my interest that companies that conduct such practices should be hit hard enough so that they'll never do it again. Glaxo is ending their anti-depressant researches.
@whiff1962 I suppose you could call anything a matter of interests. It is legally documented fact that GlaxoSmithKlein actually cooked and trimmed data during Paxil studies to make the drug look safe, and then withheld the data from the FDA regarding exactly how deadly drug is. This is documented with Glaxo's own internal memos.
why is it all women?
nintendaholic 7 months ago
Sugar pill beats prozac. Why is it legal? simple : big fucking dollar signs
kevin12305 1 year ago
@cristobalm2010 I've read all of his works. And yes, he certainly has hit the nail on the head!
whiff1962 1 year ago
@whiff1962 If you're a fan of personal responsibility, I'd highly recommend reading any of Thomas Szasz's books. He's a psychiatrist who very quickly figured out that psychiatry destroys the idea of personal responsibility and MAKES people irresponsible for their actions. This is very applicable to the legal system where "The twinkies made me do it" and "I was temporarily insane" and variations thereof are commonplace. Great author! His arguments and data are rock solid too.
cristobalm2010 1 year ago
@whiff1962 I'm also a supporter of the idea that personal responsibility rules the day, and actually IS what makes this society function well. However, in regards to these drugs, I think that if you dig in further to the studies, you'll see where people who previously had no psychotic symptoms take a drug and then end up full-blown psychotic, and when they come off the drug, psychosis ceases. Deep down, there is a responsibility for action, but these drugs have a way of cancelling it.
cristobalm2010 1 year ago
@whiff1962 I think you're right about the culture of victimhood. It's actually quite childish that people don't take responsibility for their actions; they never really grew up and expect others to feed them, etc..
cristobalm2010 1 year ago
@cristobalm2010 There is a peculiar culture of victimhood in America, unlike any other culture to date. The nature of victimhood politics has a way of mobilizing public and politician, so that the extremes come to be perceived as the means! I am not arguing about agitation from drug use and withdrawal, just the blaming of drugs on willed behavior!
whiff1962 1 year ago
@whiff1962 Glaxo ending their anti-depressant research says at least one thing for the company: When all is said and done, with what they know they can do with chemicals they use to make anti-depressants, and after all the lawsuits that result from such drugs, they don't think it's profitable to make them anymore. Maybe they expect such lawsuits when dealing in anti-depressants; maybe they expect that entire line of research to be deadly and legally compromising.. I don't know...
cristobalm2010 1 year ago
@whiff1962 Now if you want to call it a matter of interests that I think it's evil for a company to make a deadly drug, conduct fake safety studies, unethically and illegally misrepresent it to regulatory authorities, and then rake in profit while people actually die, then maybe you're right. It's in my interest that companies that conduct such practices should be hit hard enough so that they'll never do it again. Glaxo is ending their anti-depressant researches.
cristobalm2010 1 year ago
@whiff1962 I suppose you could call anything a matter of interests. It is legally documented fact that GlaxoSmithKlein actually cooked and trimmed data during Paxil studies to make the drug look safe, and then withheld the data from the FDA regarding exactly how deadly drug is. This is documented with Glaxo's own internal memos.
cristobalm2010 1 year ago