Reincarnation? think again.

Here are some thoughts on why I think resurrection is the one to go with.

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[KevinSolway]

I disagree with you that God reveals himself as merciful. To the contrary, God reveals himself as one of the most evil people to have ever existed. We can only judge people by how they behave, and God behaves like an extremely bad person whom we should make our enemy. If God exists, and sends me to hell for wanting to live an honest and noble life, then I will be forced to fight against him till the end of time.

[bzel333]

Taking only specific passages to make your case, I can see how you would think that way. God is a God of justice as well as mercy. But justice is not evil. If a bad consequence comes about from a person behaving badly, then God is acting as a just judge. All humanity deserves hell having rebelled in Adam. That you and I can wake up in the morning feeling generally good points to God's grace, not evil.

[bzel333]

I think you overestimate your ability to live a truly honest and noble life, even though in comparison to me, you may fair far better in the honest and noble department. Problem is, being made in God's image, the standard of moral perfection is far greater than you can possible imagine. That is why God came down in Jesus, so that a perfect righteousness could be lived and credited to those who become aware that they need one. Thanks for you thoughts, Kevin.

[Aragond68]

Thought I'd seen it all until I saw a dog-collared man talking about previous lives and reincarnation. The depths of my exasperation cannot be plumbed.

Elijah at transfiguration. Thank you!

"No just God would give you four years..." is indeed absurdly arrogant.

[jupiviv]

"You don't see how it is possible because you are of the world, and the world hates Jesus, and the world hates that which it does not understand. (run-on, yes)"

- You are speaking with a lot of authority here, which would be contrary to what you said earlier.

[jupiviv]

"I am not God. I believe that there is only one God. My believing that there is only one God is not the determining factor that makes it so. God is. I am condemning no-one to hell. I lack the authority to do so."

- So you would not take any responsibility for what you say, even though you are an adult.

[jupiviv]

"Do you realize that saying something like that assumes that what i say has a real effect on the reality in which we exist?"

- Do you realise that, by this logic, what YOU say about God also does not have an effect on the reality in which we exist?

[Jasonian]

Do you realize that saying something like that assumes that what i say has a real effect on the reality in which we exist?

I am not God. I believe that there is only one God. My believing that there is only one God is not the determining factor that makes it so. God is. I am condemning no-one to hell. I lack the authority to do so.

You don't see how it is possible because you are of the world, and the world hates Jesus, and the world hates that which it does not understand. (run-on, yes)

[jupiviv]

You are considering to Christ to be both man AND God. I don't see how this is possible.

Also, do you realise that by referring to "the" God, you are condemning billions of people to eternal damnation in hell?

[KevinSolway]

You lack the capacity to understand what I'm saying, so there's no point in continuing.

[Jasonian]

No, not "a" God, but "the" God. The "only" God.

This is a basic concept found in every flavor of Christianity; the opposite of which would be found to be blasphemy, actually.

I would like to know why you would consider this basic fundamental of Christianity to be blasphemous.

[Jasonian]

The part where the negation of evil is evil.

~E = E is a logical fallacy.

So maybe you're trying to say that the redemption itself isn't evil, but that the assumptions that must be accepted in order to consider the redemption at all may be considered evil.

Or maybe you mean to say that the punishment of someone other than the guilty party (even if by the victim's choice) is evil. Which means euthanasia is evil, as is suicide. Would you agree? And if so, on what basis is it evil?

[jupiviv]

So you'd gladly be convinced of something nobody could be convinced of, and live your life accordingly, ignoring the fact that it *could* be the something else.

As far as I know, there is no scientific basis for a human being rising up after death. You are considering Christ to be both a man and a God. That is blasphemy.