The Social Contract: Defined and Destroyed in under 5 mins

Stefan Molyneux, Freedomain Radio - www.freedomainradio.com - Free audiobooks:
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[TheTeachaSehGaza]

@richardhutnik we dont have many ppl who think wisely, so that will not change now

[richardhutnik]

Just curious about the social contract: Why does it have to involve governments? Why does it have to involve money? Why does it have to involve coercion? Is it not possible to say that, in a society, for it to function, there is implied set of rights and responsibilities that society needs to have or humans are not able to function together? Like it is presumed, and unwritten, people will keep their word and do no harm.

[Giovanni1972]

You can of course incorporate within the social contract basic political rights including the right to dissent, to refuse and resist unjust laws and unjust govt. This is a core aspect of the Social Contract theorists, and used in the US Declaration of Independence, in fact. So to simply define it to mean 'obey the state" is a misleading distortion at best of the concept--but it does make for an easy straw man to debunk. :)

[Giovanni1972]

This is completely within acceptability for libertarians, btw, although they have a very limited view of it, i.e. protection from violence or other forms of harm from others. It could be widened to the granting/enforcing of certain civil rights in return for accepting the obligation to respect and defend the rights of others. In truth any society of people together have some sort of social contract that defines the nature of their society.

[Giovanni1972]

The problem is with his definition of the social contract. Its not that people must obey the state. Its a theory that political authority must be derived from the consent of the governed, and that common public interests in the common interests of everyone are legitimate compromises on what individuals are free to do.

[solid7gld]

One more thing Bro. Social Contract is the base for our culture.It's simply a Community of people who try to come to some agreement on how we organize ourselves by deliberating on standards,morals,laws,etc.Its the developing our Sovereignty within a Domestic Jurisdiction, that's all.We then promote people either indefinitely(i.e. Monarchies) or for a limited Term of Office,to protect those interests. What we call Government.There is no such thing as social contract between people and Government.

[mjbarrowful]

Did you see billburn2 reply to this video? I think you might want respond

[solid7gld]

Really. Are you promulgating that piece of miseducation intentionally? If you can imagine people or any living creature bonding together for protection and survival, you just understood Social Contract. Social Contract comes out of the need to bond for protection, but at the same time trying to sort out the rules and the laws to make it stable. Especially when the need for trade arise, The need for government(management) arise.

[solid7gld]

C'mon man, you over thinking it. Social Contract is part of the Law of Nature. A Social Contract, just like any thing else we do naturally to respond to potential threats of repression and property deprivation. SOCIAL: a exchange of information for Mutual Advantage. CONTRACT: A consent of Mutual Agreement.

[DrGonzo56]

This is the most idiotic thing i have ever listened, good job on that i guess.