created by Nazi's for the Nazi's. LEt's not forget where this all started 1942 and why. We are not stupid, we will never give in, it will inevitably end in war
I agree. But what i meant was this. I blame our politicians for selling out our deomcracy in Sweden. I canät blame EU for that. But i am blaming EU for the decision it makes which are bad for Sweden. But it's our Swedish politicians who are "bought" by EU i really blame.
@EuropeanUnionRules Or to use another analogy. You see a second hand car and you like it. you buy it. Its got faults. Who do you blame. Yourself for not enquiring more about its "quality" or the car yard which had a sticker on the window outlining the condition of the vehicle which you didnt bother reading?
@Jasminewynja parents. they made the decision not XYZ. So using this , its your politicians that are to be blamed and thus the people who elected them in the first place, and not the EU which has no say on how you run the political system in your country.
Ohh, i agree with you since it's mostly propagande regardless if it's for or against, and i believe in being consequent :)
Just to clarify one thing. I will simplify this, maybe too much. You're living with your parnets. They sell your house to a corporation called XYZ. After they sold your house you can see how much more expensive it became to live there, you can see how little money XYZ invest in repairing the house ETC. Wouldnt you blame both your parents and XYZ?
@Jasminewynja Actually thats not correct. Four countries voted. Spain voted yes, then you had the two No votes and then it was followed by another Yes vote. But due to the fact that the Constitution required a unanimous support from all member states, there was no point proceeding with the voting as it had already failed. And am glad you are only blaming your Swedish politicians and the EU parliament, and not the whole of the EU as such. [note: both elected by the people lol]
You cant compare EU with either the WHO, WTO or UN. You asks since when do people have a say in treaties. Well. other nations in Europe did let their people vote about it. And the people who were allowed to vote were mostly against it. Blaming everyone? Are you kidding or misunderstanding me? I am only blaming our Swedish politicians and the EU parliament for the situation we have in Sweden today.
created by Nazi's for the Nazi's. LEt's not forget where this all started 1942 and why. We are not stupid, we will never give in, it will inevitably end in war
nubbin0 1 month ago
@EuropeanUnionRules
OK see you and have a nice day :)
Jasminewynja 11 months ago
@EuropeanUnionRules
I agree. But what i meant was this. I blame our politicians for selling out our deomcracy in Sweden. I canät blame EU for that. But i am blaming EU for the decision it makes which are bad for Sweden. But it's our Swedish politicians who are "bought" by EU i really blame.
Jasminewynja 11 months ago
@Jasminewynja thanks :) Anyway, am out of here. chat soon again if you like ;)
EuropeanUnionRules 11 months ago
@EuropeanUnionRules Or to use another analogy. You see a second hand car and you like it. you buy it. Its got faults. Who do you blame. Yourself for not enquiring more about its "quality" or the car yard which had a sticker on the window outlining the condition of the vehicle which you didnt bother reading?
EuropeanUnionRules 11 months ago
@Jasminewynja parents. they made the decision not XYZ. So using this , its your politicians that are to be blamed and thus the people who elected them in the first place, and not the EU which has no say on how you run the political system in your country.
EuropeanUnionRules 11 months ago
@EuropeanUnionRules
Ok, well.... then you have a good taste in eyes :P
Jasminewynja 11 months ago
@EuropeanUnionRules
Ohh, i agree with you since it's mostly propagande regardless if it's for or against, and i believe in being consequent :)
Just to clarify one thing. I will simplify this, maybe too much. You're living with your parnets. They sell your house to a corporation called XYZ. After they sold your house you can see how much more expensive it became to live there, you can see how little money XYZ invest in repairing the house ETC. Wouldnt you blame both your parents and XYZ?
Jasminewynja 11 months ago
@Jasminewynja Actually thats not correct. Four countries voted. Spain voted yes, then you had the two No votes and then it was followed by another Yes vote. But due to the fact that the Constitution required a unanimous support from all member states, there was no point proceeding with the voting as it had already failed. And am glad you are only blaming your Swedish politicians and the EU parliament, and not the whole of the EU as such. [note: both elected by the people lol]
EuropeanUnionRules 11 months ago
@EuropeanUnionRules
You cant compare EU with either the WHO, WTO or UN. You asks since when do people have a say in treaties. Well. other nations in Europe did let their people vote about it. And the people who were allowed to vote were mostly against it. Blaming everyone? Are you kidding or misunderstanding me? I am only blaming our Swedish politicians and the EU parliament for the situation we have in Sweden today.
Jasminewynja 11 months ago