Malfunction Clearing .45 XD vs. Glock 21

http://www.chaosandrage.com/
An intriguing little phenomenon. While using empty brass for malfunction clearance drills, we discovered the XD would lock up, guaranteeing you'd have to strip and rip to clear it.

With the Glock, that incident happened quite seldomly, usually allowing the shooter to tap, rack, bang their way out of the problem.

And this video also seems to set people off like crazy, thinking we're bashing one gun or the other.

Nope, just showing of the phenomenon.

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• Frank
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• stoppage
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• XD

[huskey11]

I wan't planning on responding to this, but it just amazes me at how ignorant these people are. The guy isn't saying that the gun should feed spent brass, he is using it to intentionally cause a malfunction. The point he is making in the video is that the Glock was generally easier to clear with this particular malfunction during this test. (Keep in mind, these results could change with different calibers and different models of the weapons.)

[Frankdude72]

@huskey11 Good Comment.

You are one of the chosen few who get the point.

(And if you think those comments were ignorant, you should see some of the ones that didn't get approved ;-) )

[ohioleadslinger]

So you can get repeatable useful drills with an XD and not the Glock. Everyone should be doing these strip and rips as part of tap rack bang drills. A simple tap rack all the time is going to set you up for getting focus locked on the wrong failure fix.

[Frankdude72]

@ohioleadslinger Cool, someone who watched the video and understood the intent.

You're a rare one. =)

[Alexn1067]

problems with seating spent casings have nothing to due with reliability. my sks will not seat spent casings and that thing with its original 10 round internal mag, has never jammed.

[Frankdude72]

@Alexn1067 You're making the same mistake that everyone else who doesn't get their boneheaded comments approved makes.

The video is about how the empty casings affect malfunction drill training.

On the Glock 21 you get both Type I and Type II malfs.

On the XD in .45 ACP you only get Type II malfs

We're deliberately setting up stoppages to train to clear them.

And in case you believe "I don't need to train that cuz mah gun neva jamz"... *rolls eyes*

All guns jam. Train to clear them.

[NRAhab]

The reason you get the stoppage with the empty brass is the extractor on the XD is at a higher tension than the Glock extractor. It's not designed to ride over an empty case like that, so when it does it "fools" the gun into thinking that it's empty.

[TheGTHGl0bal]

that shirts says looking for a japanese girlfriend

[cubs3145]

"tell you what.. ahh, fuckin A"

classic

[LotusDragon09]

I have that Japanese shirt :).

[Mr5point56]

Its sad to see so many gun owners not getting the point here... Hey thank you for taking the time to help remind us to train train and train some more :) good work fella's Mr5point56

[40RLH]

I understand malfunction drills. Take 10 XD's and 10 Glocks then test all 20. Then post the results. One of my XD's functioned flawlessly the other did not. My Glocks have all been the same near perfect. I do think Springfield has quality control issues.

[EddieTreat]

I'm a XD guy and no, what you said and showed did not piss me off lol. With my XD9 and cannot replicate the Type II malfunctions you were getting. I wish I could as my malf drills would be "real world", you never know if a malf is going to be a strip and rip or a tap rack bang until you get one in the field or at the range. The guns ability to feed a fired shell doesn't really mean anything unless you and doing drills anyways, you're never going to put empty brass into a mag for duty carry.