OLDSMOBILE 455 W-43 EXPERIMENTAL HEMI AND OTHER EXOTIC ENGINES - THE JOHN BELTZ YEARS PHOTO TRIBUTE
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@MrExnihilo you just heard that from yer chevy-magazine-reading buddies. ford's 427 wedge was already kicking gm's ass since 63 AND it was ford that got called before congress around 69 at a very bad time just when the hemi-bird was winning and ford tech's where in the middle of working on their new car. it wasn't the 429hemi that was bad, it was aerodynamics at 190mph. go watch yer chevy commercials. btw it would've been neat if these hemi olds's made it to production they look exc
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Actually gm experimented with hemi heads in the 30s if i remember right they didnt see much of an advantage then. But as higher octane fuels came along mopar seen some possibilities and they went for it. Also i remember seeing a bbc with some exp hemi heads on it a while back, maybe someone else has seen it.
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Didn't Chrysler have a patent on the Hemi back then?
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olds was like buick which was like pontiac which was like ford. during the heyday of musclecars, if you wanted to get an olds to perform on the same level as a box stock mopar, you better be prepared to throw a ton of money at it. nobody in their right mind would be caught dead in one..unless it was riding to a baseball game with your pappy.
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@BadAssEngines That's very interesting, what you said you guys learned over time about cross-drilling crankshafts.
I'm not an engine builder. I love musclecars...and have a couple of fairly desirable ones that will be redone "one of these days".
In your opinion...and just for the recreational reading of a novice...is there anything along those same lines that you think are being discovered now and conceded as something that was thought to be a good idea but seeminly isn't, re: eng. building?
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@ludwigking ther in super Stock dirt cars
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@smithkid1996 ive heard that at some point after the crash testing, they were all of a sudden catching on fire wherever they were being kept. as for anything else, i havent heard of anything else, but i dont think they were catching on fire "as is", just if you crash it.
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wow thought I saw it all.......nope.
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@MrREDHED72 Cross drilling a crank can actually ROB the rods of oil because of a "pin wheel effect". We used to do that back in the day but we learned over the years that what you think might work doesn't always work. Olds' oil probems are more of a drain back problem through the heads. It is one of the few engins where not enough oil drains back from the heads quick enough which can starve the oil pump. Built a number of Olds race engines in my day. Check us out online at BadAssCars
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Interesting to see the Hemi version with the heads off at about 1:50 only to see what "appears to be" typical 2 valve relief pistons and not typical "hemi" type pistons with valve reliefs at the top and bottom. I wonder if that was just a display engine they were showing or if that really was what they used. It doesn't seem possible for the combustion chamber shape, or for the 4 valves to have clearance. Just thought it was odd is all.
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@silvernail6 the volt is GM's FOURTH attempt at an electric car. the past 3 have failed, and the volt is on a BAD track. i heard now GM is buying them back because the are crap, and having defects. (but for some reason no recalls?) i just thought you would find that interesting.and i saw pics of the 53' olds, it was so much nicer then the corevette, and had a proper V8.
Since Olds is gone today, where are these engines now?
ludwigking 5 months ago
@ludwigking Some were possibly destroyed. The engines that survive circulate among collectors. See this link for a 2009 video of one of these engines. /wwwyoutubecom/watch?v=kfixsjM8V78
vistacruiser67 4 months ago
what is the name of that song?
montey1017 6 months ago
@montey1017 Factory Girl by the Rolling Stones from the 1968 Beggars Banquet album.
vistacruiser67 6 months ago
To all the guys discussing NASCAR. These OLDS engines have nothing to do with NASCAR. Olds quit nascar in 1959 after a Lee Petty photo finish victory over a T Bird. These engines were experimental engines designed for the muscle car movement and probably even luxury cars. A prehistoric Nortstar V8. GM put the axe to them due to government restrictions that later became CAFE standards.
vistacruiser67 1 year ago 4