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Shifting blame and "Crisis of Conscience"(a Watchtower false date setting issue)

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Uploaded by on Jan 3, 2010

Sorry for the nasally hick voice!I'm suffering from seasonal(and seasonally consistent at that!) allergies and being from Kentucky ..:-)

This video is inspired by the MUST READ book "Crisis of Conscience" by former governing body member Raymond Franz,who is nothing but kind and respectful and matter of fact in this gem of a book.If you're a Jehovah's Witness and you don't read this book,I will disfellowship you!If you're a Jehovah's Witness and you DO read this book,you won't care WHO disfellowships you.;-)

"Today several millions of Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach that Christ's invisible presence began in 1914.Very few realize that for nearly 50 years the WT society announced and heralded,in their role as prophet,that such invisible presence began in 1874.As late as 1929,15 yrs. AFTER 1914,they were still teaching this." p.183-184,"Crisis of Conscience"

1.the WT taught for DECADES that Christ began his kingdom rule in 1878.
2.The WT taught for HALF A CENTURY that the "last days" began in 1799
3.For more than 40 yrs. the WT taught that the resurrection of anointed Christians began in 1878.
4.From its beginning,the WT taught that the "harvest" would run from 1874 to 1914 and that by 1914 the destruction of all human institutions of this world would take place.
5.They say now that Babylon the Great fell in 1919.For FOUR DECADES they said 1878,with its COMPLETE destruction culminating in 1914 or 1918.
6.This list could go ON and ON.

The cause for the change?To quote Franz "the failure of their published expectations to be realized."

And those who didn't believe them were not only stumbled,but labelled and shunned.After all,how could they remain a JW unhypocritically if they didn't believe every ounce of information out of the mouths of the governing body since that is the society's dogmatic unjustified standards?To wholeheartedly,and without question,believe everything they say,no matter what ,to remain "acceptable".Otherwise,you would be a risk to the unity of the organization's followers,right?Well,the solution is to STOP BEING DOGMATIC about issues that have nothing to do with anyone's salvation,that Christ and the apostles did not teach as THEIR good news.And to actually read the bible and BELIEVE what it says about nonessential teachings and legalistic standards not being necessary for salvation,like the Pharisees believed they were.And to also believe Jesus when he said it wasn't up to us to know the dates or seasons.Keep on the watch by all means.But stop speculating specific dates that the bible says belongs ONLY to the father to discern.Jehovah's Witnesses often compare their false predictions to the apostles premature expectations as told at Acts 1:6 yet completely ignore what Jesus said rebuking them in the very next verse.There are no more excuses.

http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/prophecy/comprehensive-list-of-false-dates-...

Acts 1:7:He (Jesus) said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.(NIV)

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  • Very articulate presentation! I remember thinking as a kid....If God chose them as his mouthpiece they would NEVER have to back track & change the message they say he gave them. Did Moses have to re-write the 10 commandments a half dozen times?

  • @999Atwood Thank you!And amen.:)

  • Obey us without question, we also change our stance on doctrine or "rules" on many LIFE and DEATH subjects where disfellowshipping will occur one year and not the next. Have really opened up a whole can of worms. Went through all the emotions you probably know and now am just left flat. Seriously, watch the movie "They Live", it means a lot more to me now, haha.

  • @lipvixen I'm proud of you.I love you,and I'm going to rent it now!Oh and..save the worms for fishin'!

  • Well spoken 'Howdytheresir' - the exJW exposure movement is gaining in strength. Any JW, defying their bosses and surfing the net, will have oceans of information exposing their miserable little cult for the cruel controlling dictatorship that it is. I was raised as a JW; it was a black cloud on an otherwise happy childhood. Here's to the cult's imminent implosion.

  • @NelRow23 I too think the movement is gaining in strength.I think God has used men like Ray Franz to wake up JW's who love him but are deceived by blind shepherds in a rich corporation that inevitably harbors corruption like they all do!May God continue to prepare the way for JW's implicitly putting faith in men to become free in his Son & out of works based bondage before it's too late.

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  • Very well presented.

  • Jehovahs Witnessess are to be pitied, and if possible freed from their mind prison.

  • @smagisa YOU ARE UNREAL AND VERY STUPID

  • Is there any difference between men today and men of the first century? Whether a body of men or one man who had a concern may or may not have been correct? All men are fallible. What alternative religious belief did anyone suggest? "Nothing is true; everything is permitted".

  • Has anyone heard of Zeitgeist Movement?

  • I could never understand how some New Testament scritures apply when the Watchtower wants to bully the 'great crowd' but at other times only apply to the '144,000' when they want to prove they are the elite chosen few. Such arrogance!

  • Obey us without question, we also change our stance on doctrine or "rules" on many LIFE and DEATH subjects where disfellowshipping will occur one year and not the next. Have really opened up a whole can of worms. Went through all the emotions you probably know and now am just left flat. Seriously, watch the movie "They Live", it means a lot more to me now, haha.

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