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Terence Kealey: The Myth of Science as a Public Good
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[scotths]

What are your thoughts on patents/copywrite protection. Consider linux vs. windows Linux illustrates the power of non-market based software development in a manner similar to our approach to science, in which each programmer is allowed to see and build on previous work and doesn't have to worry about creating a separate isolated product that can be sold. The end result has been a much more stable operating system that is used in everything from servers to toasters!

[fringeelements]

No. Look, you ate some junk food at some point in your life, yet today you are much healthier than cavemen at your age. Thus junk food is good!

You're making a similar fallacy here. There was state intervention. There was progress.

I don't know what you're talking about each programmer not having to make a separate product. Lots of people work on things - like cars - which are then sold as single products. You don't know what a market is. Don't ask me, go read my book.

[nonaCbarC]

How things have been done isn't the only way how things can be done - i) VS How things have been done is the only way how things can be done - ii). Alone ii) is a pretty risky suggestion. If that's all Prof. Chomsky says, then it doesn't look good for the Prof. However, it seems, we need to try out the other model to see the conclusion.

[fringeelements]

@nonaCbarC

I think you're missing something. It's not about "us" "trying something new". This isn't some community meeting where we decide, explicitly and in eyesight of each other, to build a well or not.

This is 300 million people who don't know each other and may hate each other if they did. Before you start "experimenting", you need to smash the state. But until then, nothing will happen and if something does it is all political.

[nonaCbarC]

@fringeelements Pt 3

I don't know politics well;mostly learned from YouTube for approx 1.5 yr. What is the common usage of the term "Anarchy" these days?

[fringeelements]

"Anarchy" means nothing. It means to be against "archy", "archy" is whatever you don't like. If you support what other people don't like ("archy"), then you are not an "anarchist". It's very simple. I learned this the hard way, by using "anarchist". Don't use that word, you will be fighting semantic battles forever and will go nowhere.

But I've made a book and audiobook, my thoughts are organized. On the youtube channel foranemergentgov if you care, and on the link that is my channel title.

[return135]

"statist hack Noam Chomsky" LOL Perfect!

[fringeelements]

Okay, key is SOME basic science with your objection.

Even at the current tax rates, people give loads to charity. That there are so many who bring up this "basic research" objection tells be there is a market for scientific charity. And people give money to charities for various reasons.

[Tsicar]

@erelpc Still doesn't refute my claim — and I'll say it again: GNU/Linux sucks ass.

[erelpc]

@Tsicar No it doesn't. GNU/Linux is an example of free-market at work (minus the copyright part) compared to Windows which is more of an example of a pro-business product given a larger monopoly through state laws.

[Tsicar]

@scotths GNU/Linux sucks ass.

[Akatam0t0ma]

@return135:

How is Chomsky a statist? Not denying that he isn't, nor defending him, just curious on what basis he can be labeled as such, since he so vehemently claims to be anti-statist, as far as I know...

[nskinsella]

It's $1.25 private research crowded out for every $1 public not just b/c the gov't is less efficient, but also b/c the state extracts its handling charge for collecting taxes.

[elliotcheely]

you should do more videos in your smug voice. =)

[nonaCbarC]

@fringeelements

Thank you for your response. I have one more questions; regarding your description of "Anarchy" is that the common usage (contemporary) or an axiom (definition)?

It seems you have another channel. Cool. Thanks.