Experts' Evidence for Jesus' Crucifixion

Dr Peter Williams and Dr David Instone Brewer look at the Munich Talmud, which contains traditional Jewish teaching, and discover how even the deleted text provides evidence for Jesus' crucifixion! Find out more at our website: http://tyndalehouse.com

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[thone2008]

@Nebelung13

Spartacus not speak English, or unlikely "Latin", likely the Greek was "Stauros" that has no relation to a Cross Figure, "Cruci-Figure" (Is Latin), it means " Cross Figure" as in "Cruciform Tropaeum" (Google image : Caesar's Trophy) to educate your brain

[Nebelung13]

@thone2008

So you deny the centuries of roman practice of crucifixion? Ever heard of Spartacus? and the punishment that befell him and hsi followers?

Are you mental?

[FriendOregon]

hmmm

[thone2008]

Crucifixion is a poetic reference to "JULIUS CAESAR" ignorance ifdiots, a Crucifix is a PROP used in Roman Jupiter(Divus Iulius) Temples, A PROP, not a torture device,

[zestydude87]

@lammascub1991  not even funny dude....

[JudgeJred1]

@atheistprophet5760 You are talking about a different time, place and culture. "Witch-trials" were (most probably a Western, medieval invention and thus completely unconnected to the Hebrew/Aramaic semantics of the word in question. "Sorcery" is a gloss of a word which obviously indicates REAL but pejorative miracles, unconnected to the English. There is also much Latin evidence as well. Do not fall into the trap of "EISEGESIS" but do good "EXEGESIS" - leading out the true meaning of the text.

[JudgeJred1]

@atheistprophet5760 The Jews have not admitted a tradition of embellishment... Or at the very least certainly not at the time of Second Temple Judaism as any scholar will tell you. The Rabbis trained their disciples in the mastery of the entire Hebrew Scriptures. As well as this each disciple would memorise the entirety of their particular Rabbis exegetical tradition along with the Oral Torah. This is supported by much extra-biblical evidence and the research is applied to the Gospels.

[lammascub1991]

Jesus was a homosexual.

[francoannan]

@francoannan Not to mention that the actual text is rubbed out, which strongly suggests that there was an attempt to omit something, hence it being omitted.

The logic runs that the Jewish authorities must have BELIEVED that Jesus' miracles were real; one doesn't castigate a party tricks entertainer for actual sorcery, as one is an illusion and the other supernatural power of some guise. Whether all witches in England were actually so or not bares no pertinence to the aforesaid issue whatsoever.

[francoannan]

@atheistprophet5760 So, you're happy to pick up that the Jews WERE telling the truth then? Which is it?

The sorcery and stoning claim is erroneous and doesn't have four eye-witness testimonies written by different witnesses in differing locations independently that correlate so clearly, not to mention a solid, checkable doctrine (read the remainder of the New Testament) which is established and maintained till the present day.

[atheistprophet5760]

According to the Dr.'s, if Jesus was accused of sorcery, then he must have actually performed miracles, because no one would be stoned to death for doing "fake" sorcery. I suppose the Dr.'s have never heard of the "witch burnings." Following the Dr.'s logic, the witches must have actually performed miracles, since they were accused of "sorcery." It could not be the case, according to the Dr.'s that they were midwives, spinners, and some were accused just for the heck of it-no miracles performed!

[atheistprophet5760]

So when they write, the Jews have a "tradition" of embellishment (they have admitted this), i.e. MAKING IT UP AS THEY GO ALONG. The Dr. in this video claims exactly this, that they MADE UP stuff as they went along to suit their purpose! However, he wants to say that this is "proof of" Jesus' resurrection!!--aaaahhhh, yes, from people that make stuff up!!....:)

On the other hand, perhaps they told the truth. He was a fake sorcerer, and was stoned to death.

[ilsdmspjs]

cool