Manchu history - Qing Is NOT China

Qing just conquered China. China was just one of colonies of them.

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[waterdropsfall]

If any of had been born in Qing Dynasty and had claimed that Qing was not China, the Manchurian Lords would just arrest and execute you.

[theboyuan0jcfan]

See, it was the Qing Manchu themselves who created the notion of Zhonghua Minzu(supra-cluster Chinese race) which include Han, Hui, Manchu, Mongol, Tibetan, Uigyur. So how can Manchu now deny they are not Chinese and Manchuria not part of China?

[theboyuan0jcfan]

@racistbitch1 I noticed the map shown indicated Ming as China when Ming is only Han ruled. You can see Qing is not part of China if you refer Ming as China as Qing is not part of Ming( the name we call our nation during Ming Dynasty). But we say Qing is part of China as the China I meant here is not the Ming Dynasty or other Han ruled Dynasty nut China being Zhongguo(name we call our nation today).

[TheKavebear]

The Manchu emperor adopted all the ways of the former Han Chinese Ming dynasty with the exception of the hairstyle and intermarriages between the two groups.

[Yamatopetro]

@racistbitch1 Qing is china retard

[Yamatopetro]

@retardedbitch1 Qing is china

[SHUTUPNOOB654]

the manchu conquered china,but the chinese still influenced the manchu greatly. even the manchu language was taken over by the chinese language

[zzzyes]

fuck the qing that fucking shit bring down china

bounch retard

han, tang dynasty is the real china

[waterdropsfall]

part 3/3 successors of Shunzhi inherit this emperors view about their identity. In fact, they even became more willing to accept their identities of being Chinese emperors. Throughout the middle period of Qing Dynasty emperors were fighting against chinese nationalists who disown them and cover their alien history. In the later peroid of this Dynasty, Qing had always be happy to use the name of "middle kingdom", which identify with China

[waterdropsfall]

part2/3 when manchurian seized Chinnese capital city Beijing in 1644, they decided move their capital city here and then conquer the whole China. The identity of this empire was then one of the major issues that the new owner of Beijing faces, that was would they rule China as alien invader or would they claim themselves the successor of the former Chinese Ming Dynasty? They chosen to be the latter-the new lord of China, that's why a second coronation came to the emperor.