Future of the Royal Navy

What Royal navy might look like in 10-15 years time. With current government it is hard to guess what ships will enter service and what ships will be sacrificed to invade yet another pointless country.

It is my opinion the UK needs a strong and powerful Royal Navy, with at least 24 Frigates, 8 destroyers, 2 carriers, 2 Helicopter carriers, 8 Astute Submarines and substantial blue navy capability which conservatives are dismantling at the behest our national security and in turn we invade places like Iraq and Afhg...w.e to accomplish exactly what? (nu labur innit)

I say we should take care of our own, and than think if we are able to help with peacekeeping worldwide, and for that we need a superb navy that is up to a task of supporting our men and women overseas.

Navy first, Army last is my motto, what i mean by this, we enter in to conflict area as peacekeepers first with navy delivering vital supplies and relief to needing population, Army should only be used when all our diplomatic and humanitarian operations were exhausted.

Just to end, UK is no one's puppy dog nor should we allow to be used as one every time some Yankee doodle doo yells jump.

update...


RN Fleet circa 2020-2025

6x Type 45 Destroyers
12x Type 23 Frigates (will be retired by 2028)
12x Type 26 Frigates (replacing Type 23 Frigates)
8-10x ocean Going corvettes or additional type 26 frigates (not yet clear...)
7x Astute Class Attack Submarines
3x Vanguard Class submarines
2x Queen Elisabeth class Super Carriers
2x Assault Landing Docks (Albion and Bulwark)
1x Ocean Class Helicopter Carrier
2x Wave Class Replenishment ships
4x Fort Rosalie/Victoria class replenishment ship (Fort George, Decommissioned, but kept in the reserve)
1x Aviation training / Primary Casualty Receiving Ship
3x Rover/Leaf class oilers
6x Point class sealift ship (civilian ships under RN contract and only used in times of war)
6x Sandown-class mine countermeasures vessels
2x Antarctic patrol icebreakers HMS Protector & HMS Endurance
4x Bay class landing ship dock
1x RFA Diligence (A132) class
4x River-class patrol vessels
2x Echo-class multi-purpose survey vessels
1x Ocean survey vessel
16x Archer or P2000-class fast patrol boats (used only for training)

Just to add, originally RN defence white paper called for upwards of 30 escorts, plan called for C1. C2 and C3 escorts, C1 would have been class of ships similar in size to Type 45 but less capable, now we know them as type 26 frigates, C2 supposed to e some kind of general purpose frigate lets call it type 25 (for now) and C3 supposed to have been large ocean class corvettes, I've originally thought it might be BAE Systems Sea Wraith Corvettes or some other Stealthy 99-115m corvettes, but now this is unlikely to be the case. It is my opinion RN will go with additional Type 26 frigates, 8 additional ships will be ordered circa 2017 instead of going with whole new design for C2 or even C3 escorts.Although I must be honest, I'm not impressed with type 26 frigates one bit.


And this is Royal Navy I'd love to see:

2x QE Aircraft Carriers -- Queen Elisabeth, Ark Royal
2x Ocean Class Helicopter Carriers -- Ocean, Neptune
2x Albion class LSD -- Albion, Bulwark
4x Bay Class - Largs Bay, Lyme Bay, Mounts Bay, Cardigan Bay
4x Sea Wraith Class Cruisers (new class of UAV/Helicopter Cruisers) L: 215m, B: 30m, D: 17500T (20 000GRT)
12x Type 45 Destroyers -- Daring, Dauntless, Diamond, Duncan, Defiant, Dragoon, Defender, Danae, Demon, Decoy, Dispatch, Dainty
24x Type 26 Frigates in 3 subclasses each with 8 ships, ASW, GP, AA
8x Astute Class Submarines -- Astute, Ambush, Artful, Audacious, Anson, Agamemnon, Ajax, Agile
3x Vanguard Class Submarines, Vanguard, Vigilant, Vengeance
10x Global Corvettes -- new class of warships with RN, L; 105m, B: 15m D: 2500GRT
4x Fort Class Replenishment ships
4xWave Class Oilers
1x Scott -- Ocean Survey & global research vessel
1x Endurance -- Ice patrol
1x Argus -- Support and Aviation ship
1x Diligence -- Repair and support ship
1x Command and communication C4 Ship HMS Excelsior L: 175m B:28m, D: 17000GRT
3x Echo, Enterprise, Endeavour -- Ocean survey and research vessels

Total: 87ships, Personal 30000 + 12 000 Royal Marines (1st and 3rd Royal Marine Commando Bgde.)

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[Elitepoosniff]

We should make the Royal navy bigger! not down size the armed forces, put more money into the defence budget.

[micoforion]

@Elitepoosniff problem is not the budget, problem is waste, too much waste. If UK managed to maintain 327 000 professionals on same budget in 2000, why it can't do same now with less than 250 000 personal in armed forces. Pays and inflation didn't go that much up in past 10 years, and costs have increased only by 15% over past decade.

UK's MOD manges to waste 6.5 billion pounds on all sorts of shit, and 11 billion pounds on wars we can't give a flying fuck about.

[Elitepoosniff]

@micoforion Its the MOD ordering destroyers, Frigates, subs and carriers along with carrier fighter jets and then cancelling numbers that cost shit loads more money then it would to keep those ordered ships, same in the RAF with the Nimrods cancelled them and then had to pay more money to get rid of them than I would of cost to make them and then have them in service for 20 years, a stupid Government along with a MOD that ruins itself and puts Britain at danger.

[micoforion]

@Elitepoosniff its more than just government and MOD to blame, much has to do with lobby politics and military industrial complex which purposely lies to get contracts and when you have cost overruns they bet MOD will pick up the tab. Whole mentality must change, right now we are still paying for stupidity and ineptitude, BTW UK needs a bare minimum 8 Type 45 destroyers, I am betting another 2-4 destroyers will be ordered in 2015, and tax payers will again need to pick up the tab.

[micoforion]

@Elitepoosniff as costs of new ships will rise, due to new contracts, and UK can't afford to support US in ever single war they fight,simply put we aren't rich enough to afford 12 billion pounds on wars alone, especially not in recession, btw this is the cost of 2011 Afghan mission and pull out of Iraq.

We also must look to our EU allies for future defence programs we can't afford to develop new systems on our own anymore, too expensive.

[semperfidelis677]

@Pringles352 Lets hope they spell "Queen Elizabeth" properly though!!!!! Whist talking names, they should actually be Warspite and Dreadnought to reflect the really great ships of our Navy not the names made "popular by stupid media!

[Pringles352]

And this is Royal Navy I'd love to see:

2x QE Aircraft Carriers -- Queen Elisabeth, Ark Royal ???????/ what? Its HMS Prince of Wales, not ark royal. Other than that, and your rant on your political opinion, you share very similar views as me :P I wish to see billions more pumped in to defence. Persoanlly i support Iraq war but no longer should we join US forces in a war we didnt want to go in to initially. Id like to see 8 type 45s, both QE class operational, and 9 ssn's.

[oiReWiin]

The U.K just needs to pull out of the other countries, we shouldn't be going in to every fucking war USA does to help them and help other people because as soon as something happens to Britain like usual we are on our own. So why waste money/ships/planes/men and resources for everyone else?

[oiReWiin]

@semperfidelis677 You'd be surprised how quick the UK could get them if they really wanted them

[MrXray2011]

@wiganerrmc That was a 'just in case measure'. Iran hasn't got the military power to combat the UK, let alone the UK and the USA.