Part 2: Composer James Mtume Destroys Jazz Critic Stanley Crouch in a Debate about Miles Davis.mp4

Part 2:
James Mtume & Stanley Crouch Debate Jazz Great Miles Davis' Electric period at the Amistad Center for Art & Culture in Hartford, CT

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[philmaravilha]

Crouch is a frustrated drummer who couldn't hang musically, so he became a loud-mouthed thuggish critic, bitterly projecting his own musical inadequacies onto the progressive artists he couldn't play with. Check out the Wildflower compilations of 70's NYC loft-era jazz...he's on at least one cut, playing some weak shit. One you know this about him, all the championing of conservative neo-boppers makes a lot more sense...

[halfmonk]

mtume runs the voodoo down. he know's what's up because he played with miles.

and crouch is still talking about miles' costume? bullshit. crouch doesn't have a clue. meanwhile, crouch is wearing the costume of a white middle class suburban businessman. and if we want to talk about a sell out, crouch has become the mouthpiece of wynton marsalis' campaign to revise the history of american music leaving out all the shit he doesn't understand and can't play. now that's a sell out.

[ImaniHekima]

Whichever "side" you may be on - if you take a side in this debate - this is one of the best, possibly THE best musical discussion I've had the pleasure of viewing.

[90palisades]

I'm sorry but whoever uploaded this lopsided "discussion" clearly has a bias against Stanley as can be derived from the title of the video, and everyone saying that Stanley can't share the stage with James is absurd. One must listen to the facts, and only the facts, that are being presented. You misunderstand the progress from debate. Both of these men have biases of their own indubitably and to further propagate irrational ideals sends us all further into a vacuum where fact ceases to exist.

[bemaniac2]

Mtume pimp slapped Crouch. Crouch was like an abused wife lol

[cheeezdooodle]

Mtume is the MAN!

Been listening to Dark Magus for the last 2 days.... the MOST innovative and exciting piece

of music I have ever heard.

thanks for posting this interview~

[iamadog]

play, listen to what you like ... music is to be enjoyed

[johnakni]

@shivabala9

I am certainly no fan of Marsalis nor Crouch. Neither should have any authority to dictate what is and what is not jazz. The music should speak for itself. I am a big fan of Sun Ra. I even used to play with a musician who played synth as he does. It is a crime that within a 20 hour documentary on jazz,Ken Burns could not even mention Sun Ra's name even once.

[shivabala9]

@johnakni

I like both Eric Clapton and Willie Nelson. I have even had the opportunity to play with and study from Sun Ra. My problem with Wynton is has lack of being consist over the years.He has been quite critical of musicians who played with so called pop musicians over the years. Also, I remember reading an article in which he said no one over 30 should play at the Lincoln Center. There were many older straight ahead musicians who were still alive that he could have helped if he wanted to..

[johnakni]

@shivabala9

Miles jammed with Tony Williams' Lifetime at the same time as Eric Clapton. Meanwhile around that same era,Miles did have a song called Willie Nelson.

[cyberdyva]

Stanley Crouch is a self-hating bufoon. He's a sad negro indeed.

[shivabala9]

Wynton Marsalis told a whole generation of young musicians to keep it acoustic and straight ahead. What has he done; he has made recordings with Willie Nelson and Eric Clapton..

WHO IS THE SELL OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!