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Uploaded by on Sep 25, 2009

The boy with the shifty-looking face

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  • thanks very much

  • I don't feel like its CG, as, if it was, then its so well done that I wouldn't expect they would make such a blunder on this boys face, or the clumsy editing mistake on the chase.

    Plus they could have made a much better 'teeth shot' with CG.

  • No-one claimed this was a real dogman. The only claims have been that its an untampered piece of film that was found at a garage sale.

    I do not believe that to be true. Which I find a shame. I'd love to think it was real.

    Still, the most magical part is the execution of that beast, and I really don't know exactly how that has been done. however, once 'compositing' is thrown into the equation, then pretty much anything is up for grabs.

  • It depends on how you define fake. It shows that its been tampered with but It was described as being untampered, so on that level it IS fake.

    And It certainly wasn't tampered with in the 70's on 8mm film, so on that level too its fake.

    One has to use ones judgement. My best guess is that they bought some genuine home movie and added some scenes to it and treated it to look similar.

    Note. the scratches and film decay look totally different on the snowmobile shots.

  • Ironically, it is the shot which, I feel most assertively gives the game away. There is no question of it being fake.

    As for the reflection, the only way it could be filmed in camera is if you had someone with a 2nd camera at an angle so what you are looking at is someone to the side and not the actual person filming.

    It is possible to do, but the angle of the mirror doesn't make that appear likely. Therefore I believe its a composite too.

  • Compositing onto Film. (Optical compositing) is a very tricky process involving expensive specialised Kit that has only been developed for 35 mm film. This shot has quite clearly been composited. However it also shows an 8mm camera.

    I think the purpose of this shot in the movie, as with most of the shots. is to tell the viewer something. This one's purpose is to say 'This is really shot on 8mm Film' (implying everything seen in the film must be real as seen through the lens)

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  • drvr, who did the actual remastering of this film and which company is he affiliated with?

  • Part 2:

    They then 'masked' the area around the boy's face to remove the elevated contrast. Because video uses something called interlacing, it looks blotchy and makes the motion look awkward.

    They could have "de-interlaced" each frame, masked the face, then re-interlaced it back to video, but there was time pressure to get the job finished.

  • I've had a long email exchange with the guy to did the actual remastering of the Gable film. He told me the boys face in the mirror is not a composite. It is actually there, and you can see it in other versions of the same video on YouTube.

    The reason it looks the way it does here is that they changed the overall scene contrast to improve the view of the terrain outside the truck. When they did that, the mirror reflection darkened so the boy's face was not visible. - see comment part 2

  • A lot of compositing programs have a 'morph' tool, the effects of which you've probably seen if you've watched any movie with CG in it. I could imagine something like that being used on the beast, but I can't say for sure. It seems like it would be a pain to make it blend in; a professional (or several) could probably do it, but it seems like quite a bit of effort. A lot of it probably is edited from different times/sources though, as you said.

  • You have to remember, this is a digitally remastered version. The rendering of the video created lines in the "teeth" scene near the end, it could of have possibly created that black silhouette you are pointing out. This is just my guess, I know next to nothing about film, but I am very curious about this subject, since I am currently living in Michigan.

  • You are on to something. Nice work.

    Based on your analysis and analysis regarding the teeth at the end, it does seem highly probable that the video was tampered with. Still leaves a lot of questions unanswered though.

  • Absolutely great work.

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