Freedomain Radio: Plato and Voodoo - A Debate

A debate on Platonic Forms, psychic abilities, and proof.

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[buttface1202]

did you fall asleep around 17:50?

[stefbot]

Sometimes it's really hard to listen to people, especially when I'm having trouble following what they're saying...

[JohananRaatz]

@stefbot Three questions:

1.) Didn't Kurt Godel prove the existence of Platonic forms with his theorem?

2.) How can you know anything at all without eventually basing it a priori or Platonic knowledge? Even with sensory experience you need proof that that can be trusted.

3.) Why does Platonism need another realm to work, when we could just adopt Platonic monism? (you know information monism or Whitehead's panexperientialism)

[stuntbaby63]

I suspect that the researchers who tested the effectiveness of prayer did not fully understand what they were testing. If they viewed it as a kind of "Dear Santa" letter to God, then unanswered prayers would suggest that prayer is a waste of time. But what if prayer is not about asking God for stuff? What if its positive effects can't be easily perceived or measured? If we bow to God in prayer, then we'll be less likely to bow to drugs, lust, greed and vanity. This is what prayer is about.

[CalgaryAlpineStyle]

@CalgaryAlpineStyle

Feeling the Future: Experimental Evidence for

Anomalous Retroactive Influences on Cognition and Affect

Daryl J. Bem

Cornell University.

[CalgaryAlpineStyle]

Research Finds Evidence of ESP

you can google for this in the news

[clemonsx90]

Richard Feynman (a friend of Randi coincidentally) has some chapters in his book Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman where he recounts his own exploration of some of these phenomena. An interesting read on creativity and scientific integrity in action.

[Blissentia]

@stefbot

another criticism of the million dollar challenge: dailygrail (DOT) com/features/the-myth-of-james­-randis-million-dollar-challen­ge

[Blissentia]

@stefbot

I believe your caller is proposing not dismissing things out of hand as disproven, but claiming that they are not yet proven.

[Blissentia]

@stefbot

Please see this criticism of Randi's challenge and follow the links: michaelprescott (DOT) freeservers (DOT) com/challenge (DOT) htm

[lordmonty01]

i think stef is in need of a babel fish too. 32:41. i just dont have the will to carry on.:(

[ajeu]

With respect to the above video! nature vs nurture! born with personality or cultivated? best wishes Alan