Rhythmically Speaking Chapter Five Max Roach

An explanation of be bop drumming is presented, along with a clip of Max Roach. This is followed by a "double duet" in which Bernie demonstrates how to develop a be bop drum solo and then how NOT to develop a be bop solo. The second solo is a technique as an end in itself solo.
The point here is that drum solos should reflect the musical context and should not just be an exercise in technique, which, unfortunately, most drum solos are. The best, or worst, example of the technique as an end in itself style is Buddy Rich.
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[dodahkeepstime]

I saw Max from the front row @ Magic Bag back in the 90's...olny dissappointment was in how often he dropped/lost his sticks...but I ate up the performance nonetheless. thanks Doc...very informative

[drummerdoc]

Thank you.

I got to see him a number of times in New York back in the 60s, and in Toronto in the early 90s.

[SaucisseMerguez]

By the way drummerdoc if you have videos of Max Roach Solos could you upload ? If thats possible ?

[drummerdoc]

I have a lot of his work on various formats.

When I have time, I will re-record a couple on dvd and post them. It is a time consuming experience, so I will see how much I get done.

[SaucisseMerguez]

interesting, this video is well explained, Max Roach is my favorite drummer I just like watching videos of him, hes cool

[drummerdoc]

Glad you found it informative.

I was lucky enough to have seen him live many times. he is cool.

[gierich2]

Max Roach is my favourite drummer. You seem to admire him a lot, too. Sorry, but nevertheless I dont like your drumming.

Why?

- Because of the busy and senseless left hand comping.

- Because the ride pattern doesnt swing at all.

- Because of the pounding four on the floor (Max feathered!)

-Because there seems to be no musical context in both of the solo parts (the whole tune doesnt rule).

PS: Buddy Rich could play the drums and he could solo. Max Roach would have agreed to this view.

[Straq]

@gierich2 Not to mention the complete lack of dynamics, there is no change in the volume or power, just hitting shit =S

[SmallTimeShred]

hummmm. Im pretty sure I still like Lars better :P but then again, Im a guitarist, not a drummer.

[OppoCity1]

Your historical research and analysis is quite impressive. Future generations of curious minds will indeed prosper from this reference that you've created. Never the less, I can't help but agree with gierich2. Your drumming is very underwhelming. Your next video could be on Rick Allen, as it's probably best for you to abstain from playing with your left appendage.

[SaucisseMerguez]

Ok thank you.