John David Ebert Lecture on Joseph Campbell Part 1
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informative and interesting. not sure why all the criticism of campbell's optimism. hope was the only thing left in pandora's box.
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@bodhibliss I see what you are saying. I agree he was pessimistic when he talks about Elliot's Wasteland and how we're stuck in it as a society without a living myth. But with the hero quest he was championing the individual and creative people especially. Finding your own myth and the source of your own life. That is the optimism I'm talking about. He said that can we save the world by saving ourselves. A vital life vitalizes. And it was his vitality that inspired me.
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Thanx again.
Kudos.
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I really love Joseph Campbell with all of his optimism, affirmation of life and encyclopaedic knowledge of the development and function of mythology in human evolution. I wish some of the "new atheists" like Dawkins spent more time reading Joseph Campbell and less time bashing their own extremely narrow perception of what religion is.
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@johndavidebert I agree. He's not the end all be all. No one is, but for me he came along and delivered a message right when I needed it and so for that I am forever grateful. I still have a mountain of reading to do of course but I'm happy just being on the right track and discussing these ideas with you all here.
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It's not merely that it's trivial my friend -- it's that it's desperately self-destructive and based on false mythologies of progress, as Spengler entirely saw.
I share your point of view.
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@mebooky I could not agree with you more my enlightened friend ..
peace and light .
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Yes i extremely enjoyed this informative interview..
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Very interesting interview, extremely enjoyable and informative..
peace, light, love and wisdom ..
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johndavidebert 1 year ago
Bookboy:
They don't have any, which was precisely Spengler's point. The West is the only civilization right now with new ideas and which keeps generating new ideas, both technological and ideological. The rest of the planet is largely taking after us, which seems somewhat unfortunate, since the consumer worldview of democracy wed to globalization is ultimately a trivial one.
johndavidebert 2 years ago
Funny, I thought the Larsens' listed Spengler as THE major influence on Campbell in their book?
I am not saying, he did not pull from other writers, but I believe he leaned too much on Oswald.
I have no idea what you define as "culture" and how it can be sick or healthy-so you may be right. I don't have the intellect to see things that black and white about so many individuals.
You have inspired me to do a video series on the errors of one Joseph Campbell. Thank you for your words.
TheFaustianMan 2 years ago
Well, let me know when the video is up and running. I enjoy criticism, if it's done thoughtfully. No one is infallible and I do admit that Campbell had his failings. (The incessant optimism for one makes one want to throw up).
johndavidebert 2 years ago
In my opinion he ruined his whole career by attributing his scholarship to that hack math-teacher Oswald Spengler, and completely fell short on any staggering work of genius, because he drew so heavily upon Spengler.
"...so that whereas both India and China may be looked upon as intrinsically fulfilled, burned out, or, as Spengler termed them, Fellaheen, Japan is young, still dreaming, and able..."
TheFaustianMan 2 years ago
Don 't be blinded by the present economic successes of India and China. Culturally speaking, they have nothing left to contribute to the world. Economic success is no marker of cultural health. Both civilizations are long past their golden ages, which occurred in India during the Gupta period and in China during the Tang Dynasty. You apparently have no understanding of the difference between a healthy culture and a sick one. If you haven't read Nietzsche, then this is no surprise.
johndavidebert 2 years ago