Do You Practice Prayerless Prayer?

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Do you practice prayerless prayer? Is your prayer life a mere formal duty you perform because you believe it brings you some merit with God? Remember, "no" is also an answer. If you pray to God and He answers "no", He has still answered prayer. If you pray as though you think of Him as a Santa Clause in the sky, you're not praying as to really get an answer from God. You're praying as though you already know the answer, and your prayer is nothing but mere formalism. Here's some encouragement from Mark Kielar and E.M. Bounds to pray with earnestness and not a mere form.

This is from the DVD series, "The True Christian's Love for the Unseen Christ." You can get this series at CrossTV.com.

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[Afrikitty]

Lane,

This promoises to be a most demoralising series on prayer to our Lord Almighty, who cherishes His children and does answer prayer. This video should be taken down, as it has already quoted one text totally out of context.

There are far better videos than this on prayer and I would recommend that you add RedBeetle's "Calvinist Exposition on the Lord's Prayer" to your channel, as he does an excellent expose, regardless of the fact that he is not popular on YouTube.

Thanks.

[LaneCh]

I addressed this in the comments a month ago.: "I hear you. Bounds had some good things on prayer, but I think he could have had better word choice here. I get the gist of what he's saying, but I don't think he worded it quite right. He basically is saying that we should take up God on His promises and not treat them as trivial. Instead of saying this, he uses the "testing" terminology which I don't believe is the wisest decision."

[LaneCh]

Also, please read the description to this video regarding your criticism of unanswered prayer. I addressed this as well. Thanks.

[fruitofspirit]

I love Mr. Kielar, Lane, but I'm confused by this.

Christ tells us we are not to put our God to the test (Deut 6:16, Matt 4:7) & the verse from Mal 3:10 cited concerns tithing specifically.

And God is sovereign. Humans cannot force His hand. We do not have that power. As in the case of the old dry bones, God asked His prophet if they could be raised to life. The prophet replied, "LORD, You alone know." Ezek 37:3

But I mean NO disrespect. Correct me if I've misunderstood something.

[LaneCh]

I hear you. Bounds had some good things on prayer, but I think he could have had better word choice here. I get the gist of what he's saying, but I don't think he worded it quite right. He basically is saying that we should take up God on His promises and not treat them as trivial. Instead of saying this, he uses the "testing" terminology which I don't believe is the wisest decision.

[DemonicFigment]

Don't bother praying! It has no effect. It is not powerful. Prayer warriors cannot defeat Christ's and America's enemies. It's just a FAIRY TALE!

[DefendYourRights1]

I believe Church should be for Bible Study and Fellowship and Praising GOD, But not prayer. Prayer should be done in your closet with door shut, in SECRET, just as Jesus told us to do.

[DefendYourRights1]

Jesus told us how and where to pray,and how and where not to pray. So whenever I see a preacher start praying in Church, I wanna get up and scream NOOOOO. Those RED LETTERS are meant to be OBEYED ! I wanna run up to them and scream HYPOCRITS . Go to church if you want, But Jesus made it clear how he feels about your temples and synogogs of wood and stone. He says the Temple is in your Heart . Go be seen of men , You have your reward !

[TheBereangirl]

To me prayerless prayer is "declairing & decreeing" taught by the Kingdom Now camp, or "contemplative" prayer taught by mystics like Madam Guillon. Jesus taught His disciples how to pray while on earth, so I am confident that when you spend time with Him in prayer, yielding to Him, He will teach you how to pray effectively. Who taught Nehemiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc. how to pray? Paul told us to pray at all times w/out ceasing and in all manner of prayer, study your Bible, not men's opinions.

[HermitintheRain]

is all of God. If we are truly brought to pray, just as in the day when he made us willing in the first place to cry out to him for mercy, so it will be found that the whole of our existence, each day and each moment of it will be found to be the same. All our prayers, will be callings of the Lord upon our soul through the stirring of the Spirit to approach unto the Lord in the worship that is found in prayer, praise and thanksgiving.

[HermitintheRain]

Many have recognized the poisonous effects of Finneyism into the world of evangelism-especially in church growth and revival pragmatism. But so few have seen how this has translated itself into the area of prayer. To the point where such pragmatic prayer has become nothing different than a pagan encantation of how's, when's and wherefore's. Where failure is marked by how we didn't say the right thing, do it in the right way, etc. Not recognizing that our prayer, as with our salvation is all of

[HermitintheRain]

God truly does answer the prayers of all his saints. The success of our prayer is not dependant on how, when or how often we pray. The success of our prayer is that it is anointed by the unction of the Holy Spirit and mediated by our High Priest Jesus Christ. If you are counting on how you pray, how often, then you are no different than those that Jesus warned about in Matthew 6. Our means of grace is not by how we pray, but by and through the person of Jesus Christ.

[HermitintheRain]

Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls: Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation. Habakkuk 3:17-18

[HermitintheRain]

Just as Habakkuk was surprised by God's answer to how he was responding, and why he was using Babylon to judge his people. Though Habakkuk didn't understand, he trusted in the LORD and eventually sang: