Uprising 1. subt: hebrew

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[nuwa81]

(Part 3) I'm talking about ghetto uprising here. But since you mentioned uprising 44 let me remind you that jewish fighters who survived ghetto battle, later took their part in Warsaw in 1944.

[metzada]

@nuwa81

that is true.

[nuwa81]

(Part 2) And what the fuck you implying stating question like this?!? That Poland is responsible for the horror of holocaust?! This is outrageus!!! My grandfather was political prisoner in Auschwitz then after death march in Mauthausen, Melk and Ebensee! Writing this i hear part about Pawiak prison in this movie clip! Pawiak is great symbol of nazi terror against my people for fucksake!!! Good thing you made it. Excuse my language, but this stuff is for me, like for you holocaust denial. Peace.

[metzada]

@nuwa81

I have never wrote, that the polish people didn't suffer!

The debate is over!

[nuwa81]

When I first heard this movie comes out, I was excited and like: "wow, americans done film about ghetto uprising, must see!" After I finaly watched this, I was so enraged with it, that I even participated in pro palestinian rally druing Jenin 2002. I understand now why "americans" didn't done yet movie about Casimir Pulaski or Tadeusz Kościuszko. I'm from Warsaw and I walked these grounds many times... Those who was there, fighters, survivors, witness tell us this story quite differently...

[nuwa81]

@metzada (part 1) From you? Maybe acknowledgement of fact that druing war, poles render massive aid to jews. Compare that to french, latvian, lithuanian or ukrainian conduct. As I said in (I) plus Poland won back independece afer 123 years of struggle, so it meant XIX century style nationalism was very strong and that affected all minorities. No it surely was not accidental... Camps were established to destroy all polish above labouring class, before infamous wannsee conference in 1942.

[metzada]

@nuwa81

What do you want from me nuwa?! Poland was one of the most anti-Semitic country! I have no personal experiences. I did not live in that time, I've been in Poland for 2 weeks about 1970. I can't and don't want to debate!

The most death camps were built in Poland, do you think it was accidental?

The film was made not by me!

The jewish uprising was one thing, and the polish uprising was another thing.

[uveolo]

what year is that movie???

[nuwa81]

@metzada (VI) 8.- It would be strange if not. 9.- Didn't know that. (About medal) But it seems kinda wrong. 10.-Yes is not. But average person get's his\hers understanding of history from movies not from library. No word about "Żegota" in this movie. Only poles made this kind of effort in helping jews. Żegota saved about 50000+ according to jewish national committee, 15000 in Warsaw alone! And there was death penalty to person and his\hers entire family for aiding jews in any way!  Thank you.

[nuwa81]

@metzada (V) Jürgen Stroop in his report says about: "constant fire from aryan side", "ambush of poles and jews on first attack with tanks and armoured cars" and "main jewish battlegroup mixed with polish bandits". Not only all of this is not shown in this movie, but all poles in it are middle aged, with bad teeth, clothes, indifferent at best, dishonest, many with vodka in hand, etc Really, this kind of films are powerful fertilizer for polish anti-semitism. 7.-that inspired many poles

[nuwa81]

@metzada (IV) In part I made error! I'm referring to "fact 3" there.