Critiquing Anarcho Capitalism pt: 2.1 Dispute Resolution Organizations

Anarchism: Arguments for and against

http://www.spunk.org/library/writers/meltzer/sp001500.html

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[SocialAnarchism]

I don't have a big problem with mutualism. In fact, I don't have a big problem with most facets of anarchism. My problem with Anarcho Capitalism is that I don't believe it is anarchism at all. To allow AnCaps to go unchecked reflects badly on anarchists. I think we should engage in discussion and debate when and where we can and hopefully some will see our reasoning.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Of course you can have non-state socialism. Socialism & government are not synonymous.

Firstly, the state existed long before Socialism was conceived of.

Secondly, pure socialism is about putting the means of production in the hands of the people, not necessarily in the hands of a proxy such as the state, as the authoritarian Communists would have it.

[DesecrateConformity]

Arguing with AnCaps is like arguing with fundamentalist Christians.

[hotfudgemoney]

There's no reasoning with Socialists. Anarchist or not.  They all believe that individuals owning anything is evil.

[NiceGuyCody]

@blackacidlizzard

"Collective means need not entail extortion."

And mob rule always ends in harmony, right?

[blackacidlizzard]

I don't know, NiceGuy, I suspect you haven't looked into the works of proponents of stateless socialism. Check out Mutualism dot or g and run a google search for Shawn Wilbur, I think you'll find new perspectives.

"Socialism cannot exist without the state"

You are aware that socialists say the same of capitalism, right?

"the reinforcement that history lends to this fact "

And by that methodology, the cases are equally good - actually, better for the socialists.

[NiceGuyCody]

@blackacidlizzard

"Indeed, both concepts have been "polluted" linguistically. That is how people can believe "capitalism=freedom=corporate privilege enforced by a territorial monopoly on aggression"

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Or how some people can believe that an inherently totalitarian system of collectivist control ruled by either a dictator or an oligarch is "worker control".

Socialism cannot exist without the state, and the reinforcement that history lends to this fact far outweighs self-delusion.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

What you're describing - the "whose army is bigger?" - is exactly what I'd expect in an "an"-cap society.

[bjarczyk]

I seriously can't stand it when capitalists/right-wingers use Orwell to defend their ideologies or propaganda. What a disgrace. He was going to join the CNT but wanted to go to a different city, where he was shot in the neck and survived.

He was a socialist who devoted his life against all three, fascism, stalinism, and capitalism.

[sharperguy]

The problem at the moment isn't a lack of restraint on acquiring property but the active _encouragement_ of inequality through barriers to entry, over regulation and fiat currency (to name a few).

[CapitalistHolocaust]

So you are going with the explosives planted in the buildings theory are you?

Got any peer reviewed evidence to support this?