I side with Shermer on the argument, but Wells did a very good job by not invoking religion or the Bible into the debate and admitting when he didn't have an answer. This is how a debate should be done, forget Ray Comfort and the like.
80% dont accept. Well it doesnt matter what u accept - if science proves something and u cant prove it wrong AND REPLACE IT with something equally legitimate, u simply have to believe what the science says or u turn to religion and become a fundamentalist.
private school would be divisive to society. imagine each school teaching it's own version of creation, ID or evolution. i think it would create more problems and threaten secularism.
"you don't need evidence for evolution once you have that philosophy. It's simply a logical deduction from your philosphy."
This was well said. They've already presupposed probability over a nearly infinite amount of time. The philosophy need only address possible natural causes 'given enough time'. Rendering the theory unfalsifiable. Otherwise it would have been falsified every time some part of the theory had to be 'refined'. What the atheists called 'moving the goal posts'. Stifling dissent.
@Moh5Itachi1 Well yes, but it is doubtful that the new theory could be considered Darwinian Evolution. Frankly, to our current knowledge, a Pre-Cambrian chicken would be an impossibility; one of the greatest anomalies of our millenium.
@Andy32268 But we can't ignore all the body of evidence because of 1 misplaced fossil. We would have to come up with a new theory that still encompasses all the data that we have.
this is why we need christopher hitchens and dawkins, this idiot cannot lack a lot of knowledge to defende evolution and does not counter attacks the creationist arguments.
@9pt9 There is no fossil problem. Evolution has been observed. It is the only theory that explains all the facts in a cohesive manner. DNA is the strongest evidence for descent with modification or common ancesty. Retro-virus DNA markers can only be explained by evolution. All animals have more similiarities than differences. I think people have a tendency to focus on the differences. Evolutionary theory even explains why people get annoying hiccups. Surely a designer doesn't explain it.
I side with Shermer on the argument, but Wells did a very good job by not invoking religion or the Bible into the debate and admitting when he didn't have an answer. This is how a debate should be done, forget Ray Comfort and the like.
thewetflarp 3 months ago
80% dont accept. Well it doesnt matter what u accept - if science proves something and u cant prove it wrong AND REPLACE IT with something equally legitimate, u simply have to believe what the science says or u turn to religion and become a fundamentalist.
aaqucnaona94 3 months ago
private school would be divisive to society. imagine each school teaching it's own version of creation, ID or evolution. i think it would create more problems and threaten secularism.
lhurien 4 months ago
"you don't need evidence for evolution once you have that philosophy. It's simply a logical deduction from your philosphy."
This was well said. They've already presupposed probability over a nearly infinite amount of time. The philosophy need only address possible natural causes 'given enough time'. Rendering the theory unfalsifiable. Otherwise it would have been falsified every time some part of the theory had to be 'refined'. What the atheists called 'moving the goal posts'. Stifling dissent.
knowwaie 5 months ago
@Moh5Itachi1 Well yes, but it is doubtful that the new theory could be considered Darwinian Evolution. Frankly, to our current knowledge, a Pre-Cambrian chicken would be an impossibility; one of the greatest anomalies of our millenium.
Andy32268 5 months ago
@Andy32268 But we can't ignore all the body of evidence because of 1 misplaced fossil. We would have to come up with a new theory that still encompasses all the data that we have.
Moh5Itachi1 5 months ago
All you need to disprove Darwinian Evolution is a Pre-Cambrian chicken.
Andy32268 7 months ago
Wells is a fat disgusting liar
Brushles83 8 months ago
this is why we need christopher hitchens and dawkins, this idiot cannot lack a lot of knowledge to defende evolution and does not counter attacks the creationist arguments.
ventura433 9 months ago
@9pt9 There is no fossil problem. Evolution has been observed. It is the only theory that explains all the facts in a cohesive manner. DNA is the strongest evidence for descent with modification or common ancesty. Retro-virus DNA markers can only be explained by evolution. All animals have more similiarities than differences. I think people have a tendency to focus on the differences. Evolutionary theory even explains why people get annoying hiccups. Surely a designer doesn't explain it.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago