The Ten Commandments Case

...Rarely will you find an individual who believes in reincarnation....say that in there past life they were perhaps a ditch digger or some other lowly position. Astrology works along this same track....flatery...people love to be flatered.

No...
John said.
They left much of Jesus' own words out of the bible cos the church elders considered his attitude too 'liberal'. Jesus didn't judge; the church elders judged everyone all the time. Jesus saw everyone as equal; the church elders were bigots. Jesus told the rich to help the poor; the church elders wanted 2 keep riches for themselves. They left Jesus' own words out of the bible because he wasn't a greedy self-promoting superior person like most of the Romans were @ the time.

I think it's time we ended this discussion, don't you? We're both of very differing opinions & to continue would just end up draining us of all our energy.
I bid the 10 Commandments channel a fond farewell & bid u all a very happy life.
You too, my dear friend remix. It has been a delight! An exhausting delight, but delight nevertheless. :-) We hav agreed to disagree & always w/civility, but we are never going to agree wholeheartedly, so God Bless You & Keep you safe & happy always. witchwild

That may be the best idea, maybe not. Can't say. Trust me though, if you want to know about Jesus, do not look to the Gnostics, they have it wrong. Trust. If you want to know about Him, trust the Book that cannot be broken (John 10:35) and continues to shock historians, scientists, archeologists and more by its absolute truth in all it teaches. I can say this because I have looked into it, I say this sincerely. It was good conversing with you. Insightful. If its the last, take care n God bless.

Yes, we had a good run tho'! ;-) But we do c the world from such different perspectives we cud reach a point where one of us feels a little 'put out' by the others's opinion. I believe in Gnostic Philosophy; u believe in the Bible. & neither one of us will ever change. I wud never like to upset u as Im sure u wud never like to upset me. So b4 we upset each other's little worlds we can gracefully end our lengthy debate still being good amigos! ;-)
Que vayas con Dios, my dear friend.

gnosticism is actually a basis for secret societies - such as Rosicrucianism, the higher order of Freemasons are lower order Rosicrucians...both are satanic..and the idea is 'we are GOd' hence if we are to do good we must balance it out with bad...theosophy created New AGe Movement, which was central doctrine of Nazis in WW2..its actually satanic. believe it or not..were heading for the end of times...

I'm well aware we are at the end of times. I also had and have no doubt the gnostics have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to Jesus. About freemasons, yeah.. though I was not aware of Rosicrucianism. In the end, I know all those are a creation of the vatican. Hitler had a high regard for those teachings. New age.. frustrates me, I know what they are about.

Where did John say that. Remember the Bible, known as the word of God declares that He is not the author of confusion (1 Cor. 14:33) and that He preserves His word (Psalm 12:6,7), that its pure. If a claim about the Bible, it must come from within. I would not ask a cook to build me a car, rather, I would ask him for tips on how to cook. If we want to know about Jesus, the Bible is the place to go. Jesus did not judge this time, but, He is a judge.

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. 2 Tim 4:8.

The church leaders lost sight of the pure truth. Jesus indeed came humble, not greedy, as you stated, but He is no mere good person/ teacher. I may not know a lot of things still, but this I am very certain of. Its what I study. I promise you, nothing important concerning Jesus was left out.

When Constantine converted.. a lot of confusion and compromise came along with that. This next verse is on point as to who Jesus is though. I believe The Bible reveals Jesus, not an outside source, u know?

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. -Hebrews 1:8