C.J.'s briefing

Like any other moment on the West Wing: Great! Therefore, it must be shared... Too bad I don't own it...

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[David94SWE]

If the White House were like this for real.. Man would the world be better.

[karlsantos]

The main problem I see is that the right to bear arms is conflicting with the right to freedom and safety.

How?

Simply because if everyone has the right to have a gun inevitably people without the necessary mental stability and sense of responsability will have guns.

Only capable people should be able to carry a gun.

Of corse that creates the problem of "who decides".

In my opinion one license for any number of guns. But to get the license go through psychiatric evaluation every few years.

[Sonnabend00]

And after Prt Arthur, how many criminals handed in their guns? NONE.

[gunsnroses2020]

Also,and I don't know if there are more cases like this.Kennesaw,GA passed a mandatory gun ownership ordinance in 1982."When the law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime & we have maintained a really low crime rate since then," said police Lt. Craig Graydon. "We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area."The population in the town has increased from 5000 then to ~30000 in 2007.The latest data I can find is from 1982-97, only 1 gun murder occurred.

[gunsnroses2020]

Gun control has really worked in the UK: "The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent."-DailyMail.

"In the two years following the 1997 handgun ban, the use of handguns in crime rose by 40 percent, and the upward trend has continued. From April to November 2001, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 percent."-Evening Standard.

[DamiettadCarnivalle]

@whatsn3xt Where do you get your "facts"?

There ARE laws against gun possession. Certain weapons are illegal for the average citizen [read: non-military entity] to have in his or her possession. Some of those weapons are RPGs, and some of them are guns.

At the other end of the spectrum are individuals who are prohibited by law from possessing ANY kind of gun, such as convicted felons, parolees, and ex-convicts.

There you go, two instances in which there are indeed ILLEGAL GUNS.

[nnassar11]

"If anyone thinks those crimes could have been prevented if the victims themselves had been carrying guns, I'd only remind you that the President of the United States was shot last night while surrounded by the best trained armed guards in the history of the world"

[rosebasil]

@Sonnabend00 yeah we in Australia do have gun laws. Talk to the survivors and the family members of the Port Arthur massacre and of the gun related incidents around Australia. I dont think they would be wanting to change any of our laws. The reduction in the amount of guns available, shouldn't that be the key point, like what Australia has done and what CJ is suggesting through this?

There will always be gun deaths due to the fact that guns have been invented, but we cant change that.

[orjanst1]

@TualhaCat Thus reducing the homicide rate because no other weapons are "as" lethal. I add the "" because lethal is a finite sum. It either is or it is not. You'll be just as dead after getting stabbed 17 times... But guns make killing easy. All you do is point and click. There is hardly an effort involved, you know, except for the tremendous strain on the human phsyce. And once you pull the trigger, there is no going back. With a knife, you can stop after the first stab.

[orjanst1]

@whatsn3xt Perhaps not the best example... Drinking laws drastically reduces underage drinking. (Although, noone would be underage if the law didn't exist). It makes it more difficult to obtain, and it shifts public opinion.

[TualhaCat]

@pw44vzs4 The UK homicide rate is about 1/4 that in the US, not 9/10000. If you ban guns, that may lower the homicide rate *by gun*, but criminals will still have knives and other weapons.

[TualhaCat]

This clip is a poor argument against gun ownership. People who shoot at real or fictional presidents know that their own deaths are a likely result. Common criminals are not so dedicated. Gary Kleck's research shows that Americans use guns defensively 2.5 million times every year. Most of the time, the would-be victim simply displays a weapon, whereupon the criminal, not being suicidal, runs away.