@AragornofRedwall: Chamberlain's views better known then Jackson? I doubt that. I have read more into Chamberlain then most have, & have no idea what Chamberlain's religious outlook was. Was he Unitarian, Liberal Christian, a good conservative Orthodoxy oriented Christian; I couldn't tell you.
It was also very interesting that Jackson is mostly quoted on religion in the movie, while Chamberlain is mostly quoted on politics. Only brief opening statement on natural theology in a college lecture.
@AragornofRedwall: Just recommending a highly provoking book. It is overwhelming based on Lee's OWN words. The author had an unusual accesss to Lee's personal papers. Perhaps the possessor of thos papers regrets granting her that access.
One thing about God's Generals, it is never brought out, but Chamberlain was prof of NATURAL THEOLOGY. You'd think such a man might have some interesting things to say on faith. Why were HIS religious views never featured.
@VictorLepanto Well, I'm not sure I want to cause a debate. But, I would suggest that you remember one wise old proverb: "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see." :)
@AragornofRedwall: I basically agreed w/ you b/f reading (or rather perusing) Reading The Man, I've found that conventional view shaken. As for Grant, he is usually given a mixed characterization. A brilliant field commander, w/ a strategic vision which (perhaps) Lee lacked. A naive & ineffectual political leader. If only Lincoln had lived to supervise Reconstruction, how different American history would have been.
@AragornofRedwall: Well, you might not want to read Reading The Man. It is not a flattering portrait, worst of all, the author of the book had unusual never before granted access to Lee's personal papers. The portrait is practically a self portrait as it is constructed from Lee's own letters, & from those who wrote to him. It will shake alot accepted myths about the man.
that is so sweet
tinasattler1 9 months ago
@VictorLepanto Hmm. Good point. :)
AragornofRedwall 1 year ago
@AragornofRedwall: Chamberlain's views better known then Jackson? I doubt that. I have read more into Chamberlain then most have, & have no idea what Chamberlain's religious outlook was. Was he Unitarian, Liberal Christian, a good conservative Orthodoxy oriented Christian; I couldn't tell you.
It was also very interesting that Jackson is mostly quoted on religion in the movie, while Chamberlain is mostly quoted on politics. Only brief opening statement on natural theology in a college lecture.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@VictorLepanto That is certainly a good question. Perhaps they thought Chamberlain's views were more well known than those of Lee or Jackson.
AragornofRedwall 1 year ago
@AragornofRedwall: Just recommending a highly provoking book. It is overwhelming based on Lee's OWN words. The author had an unusual accesss to Lee's personal papers. Perhaps the possessor of thos papers regrets granting her that access.
One thing about God's Generals, it is never brought out, but Chamberlain was prof of NATURAL THEOLOGY. You'd think such a man might have some interesting things to say on faith. Why were HIS religious views never featured.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@VictorLepanto Well, I'm not sure I want to cause a debate. But, I would suggest that you remember one wise old proverb: "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see." :)
AragornofRedwall 1 year ago
@AragornofRedwall: I basically agreed w/ you b/f reading (or rather perusing) Reading The Man, I've found that conventional view shaken. As for Grant, he is usually given a mixed characterization. A brilliant field commander, w/ a strategic vision which (perhaps) Lee lacked. A naive & ineffectual political leader. If only Lincoln had lived to supervise Reconstruction, how different American history would have been.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@VictorLepanto Lee was a good, Christian man. But I think people tend to over-elevate him sometimes, just like people over-elevate Grant. :)
AragornofRedwall 1 year ago
@AragornofRedwall: Well, you might not want to read Reading The Man. It is not a flattering portrait, worst of all, the author of the book had unusual never before granted access to Lee's personal papers. The portrait is practically a self portrait as it is constructed from Lee's own letters, & from those who wrote to him. It will shake alot accepted myths about the man.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@VictorLepanto No, I haven't. I'm currently about mid-way through Gray Fox. :)
AragornofRedwall 1 year ago