@saar144 I do it all the time off the two-handed backhand side.....still have to try and figure something out on the forehand, but most of my hitting partners these days are slice kings and queens, and they figured out pretty easily that hitting slice shots to my backhand is a bad idea....maybe have something to do with me only being 5'8" ( I like low shots ALOT), but the fact remains that slicing doesn't bother me...and I've only been playing off and on for 6 years.
@fire1202 ok but that's like....10% of the WTA?...most women are still fairly short, and like to be down low to the ball.
And SOME of those tall players have proven that they can and are willing to get pretty low to the ball.....shit even though I don't like her, Kvitova is one of those examples.
And of course no tall player in history can get as consistently low as Venus Williams....she does it better than half of the short girls.
@skriker04 that's because it really isn't that effective....Graf's slice in her dominance allowed her to do whatever she wanted with it, because she had more than enough time to bringit out. A slice, when rushed, is a WHOLE different ball game....it flies out way more when there's almost no time to create it.
Graf fans will never admit this...as if her slice can defy the laws of motion, velocity, etc...
Case and point: Seles was really only affected by her slice at Wimbledon.
It's sad that the slice backhand has been phased out as a shot choice. But it makes you wonder why? If its such an effective defence to a player capable of generating lots of pace, then why aren't we seeing such tactics in use? The majority of players on the tour today favour an aggressive baseline game because they have seen the likes of Davenport, Sharapova and the Williams sisters dominate.
A lot of the power players on the WTA tour don't like to bend. Can you imagine players like Sharapova and Kvitova having to deal with that? That'll be even worse for players that can't generate pace like Azarenka. Graf's knife-like slices are the perfect reply to their rallying. They're fast, very low and don't bounce much. They wouldn't know what to do other than put the ball back into play and Graf's forehand will put them away like it was nothing.
you're totally wrong. her backhand slice would have been more effective in today's game. The women's players of today only know how to hit hard and trade groundstrokes. They wouldn't be able to do anything with a slice shot against them, just to place it back on court.
@mohawk393939 22 GS said alot of things, but ALL is the last word that comes to mind....since you want to keep it short and simple.
As far as Kvitova, you're still missing the point. It's obvious she isn't losing much, but it's about what's happening when she's losing....every ball in to every ball out...and it comes out of nowhere.
dam grafs 40 here ...look at her footwork
dwaynebuddha 2 days ago
@saar144 I do it all the time off the two-handed backhand side.....still have to try and figure something out on the forehand, but most of my hitting partners these days are slice kings and queens, and they figured out pretty easily that hitting slice shots to my backhand is a bad idea....maybe have something to do with me only being 5'8" ( I like low shots ALOT), but the fact remains that slicing doesn't bother me...and I've only been playing off and on for 6 years.
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@fire1202 ok but that's like....10% of the WTA?...most women are still fairly short, and like to be down low to the ball.
And SOME of those tall players have proven that they can and are willing to get pretty low to the ball.....shit even though I don't like her, Kvitova is one of those examples.
And of course no tall player in history can get as consistently low as Venus Williams....she does it better than half of the short girls.
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@skriker04 that's because it really isn't that effective....Graf's slice in her dominance allowed her to do whatever she wanted with it, because she had more than enough time to bringit out. A slice, when rushed, is a WHOLE different ball game....it flies out way more when there's almost no time to create it.
Graf fans will never admit this...as if her slice can defy the laws of motion, velocity, etc...
Case and point: Seles was really only affected by her slice at Wimbledon.
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
It's sad that the slice backhand has been phased out as a shot choice. But it makes you wonder why? If its such an effective defence to a player capable of generating lots of pace, then why aren't we seeing such tactics in use? The majority of players on the tour today favour an aggressive baseline game because they have seen the likes of Davenport, Sharapova and the Williams sisters dominate.
skriker04 4 days ago
@QuadThreat85
A lot of the power players on the WTA tour don't like to bend. Can you imagine players like Sharapova and Kvitova having to deal with that? That'll be even worse for players that can't generate pace like Azarenka. Graf's knife-like slices are the perfect reply to their rallying. They're fast, very low and don't bounce much. They wouldn't know what to do other than put the ball back into play and Graf's forehand will put them away like it was nothing.
fire1202 5 days ago
@QuadThreat85
power comes from pace. you rarely can reply with a power shot to a slice.
saar144 1 week ago
@mohawk393939
don't forget Schiavone and Ivanovic, and of course, the greatest of them all - Safina, loosing to a player ranked 226 while being no. 1 in the world.
women's game of today is a joke...
saar144 1 week ago
@QuadThreat85
you're totally wrong. her backhand slice would have been more effective in today's game. The women's players of today only know how to hit hard and trade groundstrokes. They wouldn't be able to do anything with a slice shot against them, just to place it back on court.
saar144 1 week ago
@mohawk393939 22 GS said alot of things, but ALL is the last word that comes to mind....since you want to keep it short and simple.
As far as Kvitova, you're still missing the point. It's obvious she isn't losing much, but it's about what's happening when she's losing....every ball in to every ball out...and it comes out of nowhere.
QuadThreat85 1 month ago