Catholic Answers About Mother Mary 05-27-2008
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@Jere616 You mean the natural reading, as in the modern day context? Because that's not the context the gospel was written in.
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@nando33 No--not quite. Atheism (unlike a theism) does not hold beliefs as absolutes.
The atheist "position" I hold is: there is no evidence for "god", therefore no reason to believe in one. This logic works exactly like the scientific method. A claim must be demonstrated with reliable evidence for before declaring it knowledge.
Disbelief is the default position for any claim unsupported by evidence. It applies to all fields of study and is elementary to our laws of logic.
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As an aetheist, you claim there is no God, correct? There is a God or there is not, what other possibilities are there?
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Mary's perpetual virginity is not proved by showing that alternate meanings of words such as "brother" and "until" exist. Many words are like that and it is not honest to craft a doctrine by insisting on meanings which are favorable to the doctrine when the natural reading of the key verses is so strong otherwise. Jerome's long polemic against Helvidius is an example of this biased attempt.
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Con't--- I'm not sure how you mathematically arrived at 50/50 percent probability. Considering the primitive nature of the bronze age beliefs, not to mention the absurd claims made in the bible, I would calculate the chances Christianity is true as closer to close to zero percent and a 100% chance the atheists are correct.
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Ahh yes--Pacal's wager. The problem is you forget that OTHER belief systems threaten you too--because if Muslims are right you're going to Islamic hell!
Belief is not a matter of choice--I have to be CONVINCED something is true before I'm ABLE to believe it otherwise belief is not genuine. Don't you think your god is mart enough to know that?
As to nature--beauty is in the eye of the beholder--it's called adaptation and it's an unwarranted leap to suggest it proves the Christian god.
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Are you a betting person? You have a 50/50 percent chance your new position as an atheist is correct. If you are correct, you will never know, correct? If you are not correct, you will know forever that you were wrong. Forget the things that are said in this video for now. Have you traveled much? Ever witness nature's beauty? How can such beauty begin from a random set of circumstances? Do you have any examples? I think it's worth more investigation before you take the atheist position.
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The good news of god is salvation through Jesus Christ.
You Catholic’s love quoting the fathers, “saying way way back “
Well let’s go “way way back” to the apostles, in the New Testament,
What do they say about Mary? She was the mother of Jesus.
Do the apostles say any thing else? Absolutely not.
Ga:1:9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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Joh:10:1: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
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Joh:10:1: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
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Catholicism = way too much emphasis on Mary. You refer to her far more than the bible does. Catholics (at least the obsessed ones) deify Mary and they deify their church institution (along with the powerful hierarchy that rule it). I was born and raised Catholic but as I have grown I have come to reject and it's irrational dogma. In fact I am now an atheist and I embrace only reason and rationality. Those are my gods.
sweetsweatyfeet 3 years ago
I respect your opinion. However, your wrong in accusing us that we, catholics, deify Mary. We never deify her for she is not God. We only highly venerate her for she is the mother of our savior. And even when we use REASON as you mention, I think it is not wrong out of our LOVE to her, that we venerate her... I love you...
romeagle777 3 years ago 2