Bodybuilding Training To Failure?

"You need to train to failure" you often get to hear from bodybuilders, weightlifters and "fitness experts" at gyms and on the internet. And if you stop before you literally can't move the barbell or dumbbell for more than an inch anymore sometimes are told that that set "doesn't count".

Let's talk about if you should really give it more than you got every time you go through your bodybuilding and weightlifting training and workouts.

For the scientific research I talked about have a look here:

Willardson JM, Emmett J et al. Effect of short-term failure versus nonfailure training on lower body muscular endurance. Int J Sports Physiol Perform. 2008 Sep;3(3):279-93.

Len Kravitz, Ph.D. Training to Failure.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19211941
http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/trainfailure.html

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[crackakillah]

You have a cool accent.

[Evilcyber]

@crackakillah Thanks! :)

[michaelzwarszawy]

i always consider training to failure "training until you fail to maintain good form". so if you can't maintain decent form, then you should obviously stop. like if you do dumbbell flyes and start bending your elbows too much, then you're done. personally, i don't train till failure until the last set of the last exercise for a body part. previous sets, i try to conserve my energy in order to squeeze out those 6 reps on the last set.

[Evilcyber]

@michaelzwarszawy That is another good approach!

[agustn]

I am afraid you will have to shovel snow to failure ...

[Evilcyber]

@agustn I'm afraid you are right there - yesterday we had another two inches. Argh! :)

[mjoraid]

@mjoraid ouh bigger strength increasing

[mjoraid]

what did he say at 2:26

they had bigger ...... ?? bigger what, trees !? i could not hear that.

[wrusst]

95% of lifters do not know what true failure i. if you can do the same reps in work set 2 you never hit it. so 95% of lifters train 1 rep short of it I have only realised myself recently

[YangSword9x]

.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20f­older/trainfailure.html

unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20fo­lder/trainfailure.html:

"...bench press training 3 sessions per week for 6 weeks..."

"...elbow flexors...3 days per week for 6 weeks."

These study groups exercised the same muscle 3 days/week. This may be why going to failure on the same muscle group often/week is bad, but there are those of us who train 1 muscle only once per week, not 3 times/wk and may not result in a decrease in long term gains.

[YangSword9x]

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:

Problem with this experiment was that the sets & probably weights varied causing variations and inaccurate results and conclusions. More sets in non-failure group could result in higher intensity (rep x set x weight) which might have caused more gains and leveling the non-failure group to the higher gain to-failure group.

-no specific data or numbers to confirm or compare.

[Xviann]

IMO training till failure should only be done if you have a spotter

[Bajpas92]

Snow - white gym.