@keenanmartens considered the "flamethrower" of his day, 92 mph seems right on the money. He was timed at roughly 91, although that was derived from math and obviously not a radar gun
This started in '15 when Cobb saw WJ get upset when hitting a guy. Then he crowded the plate, & while before he did poorly against Johnson, from then on he hit him very well. Discussed in his Grandson's book, "Baseball's Big Train". I never have read about the specific 2-0 count though...
@SilverSkitterscuttle ty cobb handled him very well.because the big train was scared of killing someone, he never threw inside.so cobb crowded the plate. big train threw away, but when it got to 2-0, he would have to run one down the pipe. that's when cobb was ready to rip.
Where did you hear 92 MPH? Likely it is confused with tive techniques in '11. he 82 MPH, which was clearly insanely wrong, when he was tested using a primitive method. But amongst those tested this way, nobody else got beyond 113 MPH. So it should be taken only as an indication of relative, not absolute speed.
I know he would sometimes let up for Sam Crawford, drove Ty Cobb crazy. I have never heard that Managers critiqued him for this though.
I'll bet with that front foot planted, the sidearm whip motion, and the snap in both the elbow and the wrist, he had a ton of movement on everything he threw. Probably a wicked cut fastball as his #1 pitch.
@JGmartinezJr 92mph wow he doesn't even stride home, are you sure about that number? I don't want to be an ass but he's generating that speed sidearm with no stride home, thats seems impossible to me.
@keenanmartens considered the "flamethrower" of his day, 92 mph seems right on the money. He was timed at roughly 91, although that was derived from math and obviously not a radar gun
jsisco29 1 month ago
This started in '15 when Cobb saw WJ get upset when hitting a guy. Then he crowded the plate, & while before he did poorly against Johnson, from then on he hit him very well. Discussed in his Grandson's book, "Baseball's Big Train". I never have read about the specific 2-0 count though...
SilverSkitterscuttle 1 month ago
@SilverSkitterscuttle ty cobb handled him very well.because the big train was scared of killing someone, he never threw inside.so cobb crowded the plate. big train threw away, but when it got to 2-0, he would have to run one down the pipe. that's when cobb was ready to rip.
kingcoach13 2 months ago
Where did you hear 92 MPH? Likely it is confused with tive techniques in '11. he 82 MPH, which was clearly insanely wrong, when he was tested using a primitive method. But amongst those tested this way, nobody else got beyond 113 MPH. So it should be taken only as an indication of relative, not absolute speed.
I know he would sometimes let up for Sam Crawford, drove Ty Cobb crazy. I have never heard that Managers critiqued him for this though.
SilverSkitterscuttle 3 months ago
I'll bet with that front foot planted, the sidearm whip motion, and the snap in both the elbow and the wrist, he had a ton of movement on everything he threw. Probably a wicked cut fastball as his #1 pitch.
liquidsoulvideos 4 months ago
having a top 10 list without sandy koufax is like having a top ten basketball list and just "forgetting" michael jordan
jdstox1 4 months ago
@keenanmartens Me too, but hey, that's the number estimated.
JGmartinezJr 5 months ago
@JGmartinezJr 92mph wow he doesn't even stride home, are you sure about that number? I don't want to be an ass but he's generating that speed sidearm with no stride home, thats seems impossible to me.
keenanmartens 5 months ago
@TheBBQPope cuz it's hard to control and duplicate the release point
spyroninja 5 months ago
They say Johnson threw around 92 at his peak, but that his ball moved so much, you couldn't hit it cleanly.
JGmartinezJr 6 months ago