Is The Trinity True Or Not? Part 3 Of 12

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[JIIBlessed]

....But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; *for the Child who has been begotten in her is of the Holy Spirit*.(Matthew 1:18 & 20) Are uSure about that answer? & Can uReconcile that with these scriptures??

[October31st1517]

@JIIBlessed This is not saying that the Holy Ghost is the Father. The conception simply shows that Jesus has the same NATURE as the Holy Ghost. What is that nature? GOD!!!. The Holy Ghost is not the Father or the Son. (Acts 13:2) Your question is not unique. Many unitarians (Mostly oneness Pentecostals) have attempted this. You can't beat the Word Of God which is why I believe in the trinity. (John 15:26)

[JIIBlessed]

@October31st1517 Besides uJus said this doesnt say the Holy Ghost is the Father when in fact it does. The Holy Ghost causes the conception. Can uDeny, twist, or refute these scriptures? This is the Logical Obvious truth & More Importantly the Biblical Truth..

[October31st1517]

@JIIBlessed The bible disagrees with when it Shows the Holy Spirit and the Son are distinct from one Another. (John 15:26) So yes I DENY that the Holy Ghost is God the Father.

[JIIBlessed]

@October31st1517 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received the Spirit of adoption by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”(Romans 8:15) Here the Spirit is Called the Father as well..

[October31st1517]

@JIIBlessed The Spirit is not called the Father. It says that THROUGH THE sPIRIT we cry "ABBA FATHER"

[MrHellowwww1]

@blakodeel I believe in the Trinity. It really simple to defeat oneness. Jesus said he had Father, so if oneness believer redefines God, ask them are they authority over God since they are modifying God word. Beside Jesus defined God after his death in M28.19 as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. A oneness believer will try to reduce Jesus words to just the name of God. Even if the name of God is Jesus, Jesus defined God as more than a name in M 28.19. 

[MrHellowwww1]

God only needs truth. My view does not matter, but only logical and facts should support truth. God will give you answers rather than believe a lie. Here are two Jewish Christian and one logical Christian from India. Oneness is half truth.

A Jewish Christian Explains the Holy Trinity... on you tube This is Dr. Michael Brown

The Law of Non-Contradiction and the Trinity ...... on you tube Ravi Zacharias

Three Gods in One?!  Donate to Jews for Jesus Rich Robins...

[blakodeel]

Don't know why Oneness advocates get hung up on John 14:9, the rest of the chapter clearly explains the Trinity and verse 9 doesn't denounce it (Hebrews 1:3). I looked up 18 different Bible translations and ALL of them said in verse 23 the words WE and OUR in reference to the Son and Father "...If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him." Plus verses 16 and 26.

[JIIBlessed]

@October31st1517 Tell Me How John 15:26 Denies all the scripture iUsed? It Doesnt, but uAre looking at it From aTrinitarian Perspective, instead of an unbiased 1, as iDo. iAm not denominational & if uCan prove me at fault, iWill listen, iAm not 2Prideful, iCan only hope uHave the Same Gentle spirit, brother.. Explain how uRead & Intreprate Philippians 1:19, please.

[JIIBlessed]

@October31st1517 .... Then John 14:25-26... "while abiding with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name," Here we see Jesus Is The Holy Spirit, in the sence that his Spirit is the The Holy Spirit. Phili. 1:19- I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,.. Romans 8:9..But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ.. Plus it shows Jesus sending Ch. 15, but the Father in Ch. 14.

[JIIBlessed]

@October31st1517 Acts 13:2 simply states the HolyGhost speaks 2Us, iKnow that, it doesnt make it seperate, remember God is Omnipresent & Omnipotent, therefore that does not prove the Spirit as aSeperate person.. Now reconcile John 15:26 with John 14:16-20... Jesus says "another helper that will abide(future) with you forever" "but you know him for he abides(present) with you & shall be in you, I will not leave you..I will come to you" & "You see Me" & "I in you" & "I will Manifest myself to him"