Ares V model launch ends in destruction.

This is the worst rocket accident I've had. I admit, it totally sucked but many wanted to see the end result of the Ares V rocket and to see if it could fly. As the video states, I've never had good luck with this type of design. I think I've pinpointed the problem down to the lack of gravity center within the rocket. After the rocket leaves the pad, it begins a slow roll over onto itself. Even after checking the balance of weight, I thought I had it fixed. Back to the drawing boards. Any 'helpful' responses is kindly appreciated. Any thing seriously negative will be deleted! Thanks!

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[DarkAngelSeries]

A note to everyone in regards to the missing fins on this rocket. The fact is..there are fins placed on the main body and boosters. They are of clear plexiglass to give the rocket a more real look without "fins" per say, to see. Thanks everyone for the feedback.

[DarkAngelSeries]

Going for launch #2 on Friday morning. I'll keep you posted with the results!

[ewtng]

2:20 Thats exactly what mine did. You're launch failure was virtually identical to my launch failure. It cleard the ambilical tower & performed two full loops and fell to the ground. Thats very intresting. If not funny, in a weird way.

Well... It seem you & i have the same problem.

Lets troubleshoot this one together.

What do you say?

[DarkAngelSeries]

Sounds good. Here are a few changes thats I'm gonna work on. First, reduce the length of the upper stage (my rocket) by 4-5 inches. Second, I'm gonna reinforce the engine mount, it looks as though it moved a bit, and thirdly, gonna set the fins to form a v shape off the boosters. Anything else, you can add?

[DarkAngelSeries]

The Ares after review of the rocket, is fully intact after impact, so I'm gonna try again with the new design and minus the engine cover for the second try. See ya soon.

[simav8r]

Great looking rocket. What a shame it was unstable. It might not be perfect for what you're doing (since you seem to use mostly home-made components), but you might be interested in a computer program called Rocksim. If you Google it, you should end up on the website of a company called Apogee Components. From there you can download a 30-day free trial of the software. It lets you test fly the rocket virtually and check it's stability before you even build it.

[DarkAngelSeries]

Thank you for the needed information. I will check into this software. Might be of great value!

[soverato3]

HAHA just like the real one!!!

[Mikeatk]

Usually adding some weight to the nose will stabilize it. That what I used to do as a kid flying rockets in the 60's.

Good luck, it's a nice looking rocket. Well look great flying straight up.

Mike

[24kGoldenRocket]

@McdonaldSpecial I belong to a Rocketry Club in Southern Cal. The average age is about 45. You can LOL all that you want but the hobby has become much more demanding. We use the same propellants as the Space Shuttle SRB's. The ATF does not like us too well. We have to get FAA clearance in order to fly. Yeah...Cardboard and Balsa. Right!!! When was the last time that you flew?

[24kGoldenRocket]

@Zoomer30 Check out my video. Search Estes 1284 24kgoldenrocket to see a good flight of the Space Shuttle. The trick I used was to modify the kit to accept a 'D' Engine. (24mm instead of 18mm mount) Estes' Space Shuttle with Stack was notoriously underpowered. It requires 'D' Impulse. There are more than enough free card models online to modify and fabricate the discontinued kit.

[24kGoldenRocket]

I use a trick, other than fins, to move the center of gravity one caliber ahead of the center of pressure...I add weight to the nosecone. Do the "swing test". Determine the rocket's center of gravity by finding the balance when hanging from a three foot cord of string. Swing the rocket in a circle. If the rocket tends to want to lead with the tail then add more weight inside of the nosecone. Keep adding weight until the rocket leads with the nosecone first. Is that Ton Noteboom's design?

[MichaelCox]

Hard to really judge. Although a good mock-up, the real thing is much larger, has very VERY sophisticated and expensive composites and computer-controlled gimbling nozzles and is designed to carry payloads to orbit, so it's hard to make a comparrison here. This rocket looks like it should hit maybe high supersonic, but the physics is tricky up through that point.

[Landotter1]

I know that optics will fool the eye but the nose cone looked way off center and un balanced in the video. CG must be off and to one side. I'm not sure about rockets but the RC airplane folks hang their plane by a single wire to find CG and imbalance on the roll plane. I would think big rockets would be the same. Find CG than hang it from a string to see if there is any weight trying to force it to lean in any direction so you can balance it. Just my thoughts. You know more than me. :-D

[myxboxforlife]

So lats a lot of destuction!

[myxboxforlife]

so lats a lot of destuction

[PaisGreenapple3]

Don't ya just Love explosions...