Shuster vs Scarborough, Morning Joe MSNBC 082608

MSNBC's David Shuster and Joe Scarborough square off over Iraq Withdrawal.

Shuster is too smarmy, as usual, Scarborough offended and on edge, unlike his jovial self.

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News & Politics

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• Iraq
• Withdrawal
• David
• Shuster
• Joe
• Scarborough
• gotcha!
• news

[combatsambonyc]

The terms "insurgents" and "terrorists" are euphemisms for "long-term energy security - not leaving Iraq anytime soon." Anyone who believes controlling energy is not a viable and necessary geopolitical tool is drinking from the rhetorical kool-aid and living in a complacent pipe dream. Give me a break if you actually believe this rhetorical nonsense these soft-money-purchased candidates spew.

[u2bemark]

Iraq was always about 2 things:

1) Regime Change that even Clinton recognized as the goal. Saddam (with all that oil money, seeing what Bin Laden could do with little money), was a huge threat to do exactly what Bin Laden did.. use money to attack the USA via unconventional means (and he would not take credit for it like Bin Laden did).

2) A Hail Mary pass to fix the Middle East in one fell swoop by introducing Democracy to the Arab World.

[u2bemark]

Also..

Now, without oil in that region, we wouldn't give a damn. It is not about greed for oil or low oil prices.. it is about what oil money can do in the hands of the wrong people.

Overall, if it were possible, we should invest in making oil irrelevant.. but there will always be a market for oil, even after the west is all running on alternatives like nuclear power.

[u2bemark]

The main difference is, and has been, whether a SCHEDULED withdrawal is the way to go.. forced by a timetable or whether conditions on the ground will factor in.

Obama has come around to using conditions on the ground, keeping a residual force, changing the size of that force.. he has changed every facet of his "Iraq Plan" to be in line with Petraeus, Bush and McCain.. and, yes, even malaki has a target date but no time table.

[lellisonjr]

Shuster is exactly right. Someone needs to seriously call McCain and Bush on their BS. They said last year that if Iraq wants us to leave then we will leave. However, now when they tell us they want us to leave and have a deadline for leaving, McCain and Bush just say no. They are liars. We are slowly but surely entering a time of U.S. imperialism. This former republican is voting for Obama.

[u2bemark]

um.. when did McCain or Bush say "no" to 2011?

Bush will be out. How can he say "no"?

Obama wrote a bill to have the troops home by March of 2008 (yes, last march) and the Iraqis didn't want that but Obama knew better. Now Obama has changed his story to be exactly the same as Bush and McCain.. withdrawal according to conditions on the ground with general target dates like 2011, 2013. Now you guys are claiming Obama is in line with Malaki and Bush and McCain are not.

[Srhandel]

Joe is outnumbered on a far left wing network, it's sad really. The only other conservative is Pat Buchanan.

[recreant1]

joe's clearly still pissed from olbermann telling him to get a shovel the other night

[H4rryF]

RE: Your last caption-pity Scarborough didn't think of saying that

[gombis666]

Shuster is a hack and thankfully, unemployed. 

[thedecider1984]

olbermen a whiny faggot

[thedecider1984]

just like your mother

[FixedNewsAlerts]

Scarborough is a fag.

[loce1959]

Gosh, is David Shuster a reporter or a commentator? I see now the mainstream media really is fair and impartial. Not hard t see why MSNBC and NBC are all going down the tubes.

[CuriousMind0]

Wow! So many times you see video entitled so and so rips so and so, and you find out no one really rips anyone. But this video is something else! Shuster got taken down and made to look like the punk he is. Joe made him his bitch!

[Ourshowsrock]

Joe is so hateful, i really do not know who gave him a show.

[hdog32197]

Joe you are a complete ass . Compared to Rush Limbaugh you are two of the same. Try pointing out the positive instead of the negative I 'd like to see you be able to fill the shoes that are facing our President right now . Try standing by him instead of baggering every move he makes. This also applies to you Mikka . Look at your past shows for the last mont they have stunk!!!! You two are doing more to destroy our country than anyone

[galleriagood]

Scarborough! Sarcastic, Racist, Pompus, war mongering asshole!! He's an expert on racial politics. Facist-Nazi Trash...

He treats his co-host (meeka) like a child. Where is her self-respect???