The Rich Laugh At Us (SONG) : MARK KELLY

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A laugh, a song and a social revolution. A minor key from
a minor character. Rock Against Careerism.
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  • Anyone with a rational mind knows that Capitalism leads to Fascism. The old Soviet Union was ran by State Capitalists.

  • I've never accepted the idea that the Soviet Union was "state capitalist". This was a formulation by those such as the SWP who wanted to blur the differences ("Neither Washington Nor Moscow") in order to accommodate anti-communism to pursue their own reformist agenda with regards to the Labour Party and "the parliamentary road to socialism" which seems to me to be like the M25 - crowded and circular. I always considered the Soviet Union to be a degenerated workers state.

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  • Well done, cheers!

  • Awesome statement and song!

  • Well done Mark - think I'll try your version next time I play the game with the kids. It'll be interesting to see how they respond to being born with a silver spoon in their mouths - so to speak, or being bottom of the blinkin' heap

  • Thank you. I've been hoping to do some Youtube videos about politics and with any luck tackle some of the misconceptions surrounding socialism and marxism, although I'm afraid I don't have the comic talent of Mark here.

  • Please take this as a compliment for your well-spoken arguments: you should be on television, radio, newspapers and any other form of media debating all these hypocrites who say nothing than what the masses want to hear. I'm serious, I'm enjoying this debate. Keep it up!

  • Ah! Now we're both understanding where we're both coming from!

  • If it were easy it would have been done already. But great gains have already been made and I like to think its only a matter of time before the job is finished.

  • A dictatorship is what happens when one small section of society use illiberal means to hang onto control of the coercive power structures. While "liberal democracy" is certainly preferable to that it is important to keep in mind that it doesn't really matter who holds the concentrations of wealth and power, its the fact that those concentrations exist that is the problem.

  • Its less about ideology than it is about where power lies. The Soviets failed to abolish concentrations of what Lenin called "special power" (political power seperate from the people as a whole). Administrative decision making was the job of those with the necessary education, seperate from the masses, and thus the USSR came to be a workers state in which the workers had a minimal political role to play.

  • As to the issue of classes that challenge could be next to impossible, with many underground organizations whose members are solely comprised of people from the heights of society continuously formulating means and methods on surviving political shifts and struggles even manipulating political ideologies in their image and interests in order to secure their place in the upper class. This is no conspiracy theory by the way. (I'm saying to anyone else who might misunderstand the argument)

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