Jesus said conquer? WTH, don't you even heard He said before he said "for all who take the sword will perish will the sword." This king really self-legalize without poof.
@bammbamm12 so you dont think that the ecunemical councils and such could be the work of men arguing over who jesus was and just going on the consensus (majority) opinion and establishing it as "orthodoxy" and suppressing all other opinions? as a minor example, st jerome translated the OT of the bible into latin vulgate from hebrew, believing the greek of the septuagint and the dueterocanonical books therein as incorrect, while the dueterocanonical books of the septuagint were accepted.
@bammbamm12 so you dont think we should think for ourselves or search.. just listen to what the "authorities" have to say. the dogma of the church has it all figured out. i just dont understand the logic behind that. "infallible" teachers? then why study? why not just go ask what the religious authorities think? this is partially why some feel that organized religion is there to control the masses.
this is the end of religious shopping in rome, and the end of the pax romana as we know it. the romans were known for allowing the peoples that conquered to have whatever religion they wanted. and to have their own "state" within the roman republic. constantine changed all that. a theocracy emerged.
@bammbamm12 thats insane. dont think for yourself? that church has it all figured out? well lets just follow the herd. we dont need to think for ourselves. LOL.
on the contrary, im going to school to be a religious studies professor. and i DONT agree with the church. maybe individuals should seek truth instead of finding solace in that its already figured out. the bible is full of contradictions. no "church" can mend that.
@phil8888 - to contest the teachings of the Church based upon one's interpretation of scripture is a recipe for disaster. Look at the US Constitution - 2 -3 pages we've been arguing over for 200 years. The Bible is thousands of pages. Without an infallible teacher, the Bible is no smarter, sillier, less selfish or avaricious than you.
It's so awkward when they consider all types of "Christians" to be just different kinds rather than true Christians (Catholic) vs. heretics. So they include arians, gnostics, etc. and it becomes awkward to describe why some books don't belong. Notice when she's like "this didn't belong to the canon of SOME Christians". They make it sound like there's just all kinds of different Christians and they all have their own Biblical canons.
IN HOC SIGNO VINCES doesn't mean "in my name conquer"! It means "by this sign (you'll) win"!
Rotebuehl1 3 months ago
Jesus said conquer? WTH, don't you even heard He said before he said "for all who take the sword will perish will the sword." This king really self-legalize without poof.
melbourneopera 4 months ago
@taliesin939939 - Rome has spoken; the case is closed.
bammbamm12 6 months ago
@bammbamm12 so you dont think that the ecunemical councils and such could be the work of men arguing over who jesus was and just going on the consensus (majority) opinion and establishing it as "orthodoxy" and suppressing all other opinions? as a minor example, st jerome translated the OT of the bible into latin vulgate from hebrew, believing the greek of the septuagint and the dueterocanonical books therein as incorrect, while the dueterocanonical books of the septuagint were accepted.
taliesin939939 6 months ago
@bammbamm12 so you dont think we should think for ourselves or search.. just listen to what the "authorities" have to say. the dogma of the church has it all figured out. i just dont understand the logic behind that. "infallible" teachers? then why study? why not just go ask what the religious authorities think? this is partially why some feel that organized religion is there to control the masses.
taliesin939939 6 months ago
@taliesin939939 - If you want to have a conversation, don't start it off with an insult, punk.
bammbamm12 6 months ago
this is the end of religious shopping in rome, and the end of the pax romana as we know it. the romans were known for allowing the peoples that conquered to have whatever religion they wanted. and to have their own "state" within the roman republic. constantine changed all that. a theocracy emerged.
taliesin939939 6 months ago
@bammbamm12 thats insane. dont think for yourself? that church has it all figured out? well lets just follow the herd. we dont need to think for ourselves. LOL.
on the contrary, im going to school to be a religious studies professor. and i DONT agree with the church. maybe individuals should seek truth instead of finding solace in that its already figured out. the bible is full of contradictions. no "church" can mend that.
taliesin939939 6 months ago
@phil8888 - to contest the teachings of the Church based upon one's interpretation of scripture is a recipe for disaster. Look at the US Constitution - 2 -3 pages we've been arguing over for 200 years. The Bible is thousands of pages. Without an infallible teacher, the Bible is no smarter, sillier, less selfish or avaricious than you.
bammbamm12 1 year ago
It's so awkward when they consider all types of "Christians" to be just different kinds rather than true Christians (Catholic) vs. heretics. So they include arians, gnostics, etc. and it becomes awkward to describe why some books don't belong. Notice when she's like "this didn't belong to the canon of SOME Christians". They make it sound like there's just all kinds of different Christians and they all have their own Biblical canons.
phil8888 1 year ago