@Siguror6 ...Or loaded open carry. It should be our choice to carry how we want. I like OC sometimes simply because i don't want to dress around my gun and/or carry a tiny gun to conceal. But I also like CC in some situations because i like the element of surprise
Recall election anyone who ever voted for Jerry brown was a complete fucking idiot cuz he fucked up in the 70's with the death penalty and he is fucking up again with passing this bullshit
@Sodiumreactor No you idiot, if you want to be against immigration do you vote democrat or republican? Republican, they tend to have anti immigration stances more than democrats, although some democrats would step up enforcement. Also it was her grandparents who were the illegal ones.
@LogicalThinker667 well well. it looks like this Gov. of New Mexico is *attemtping* to change the states pro-immigration status. However, its still an illegal friendly state. You can still get a DL regardless if you are illegal or not. She IS trying to change that. I dont see anything about her that says her parents were illegal. Why do you keep bringing up the fact that she is a Republican? Are you against Reps or something?
@Sodiumreactor I said "generalizing won't help you" smart one. Also Yes I've been outside my hometown and even to Mexico a few times. Also I've looked up policies done in New Mexico, it's a Republican governor cracking down on illegal immigration who herself had grandparent who were illegal immigrant her name is Susana Martinez btw, it's like saying Alabama or Arizona are illegal friendly is you call NM illegal friendly.
@LogicalThinker667 You said I needed to be saved in your own post. Man, do you even pay attention to the BS that comes out of your mouth? Or in this case, your brain? read back through your replys, you tell me that "generalizations cant save me". Ever been to New Mexico? Ever been outside your hometown?
@Sodiumreactor When do I said you need to be saved? I'm not a religous nutbag. Also you called New Mexico one of the most illegal friendly places. it's not there's anti immigrant legislation and a Republican Governor, California yes but New Mexico no. Also you call them illegals despite the being born here, they are by definition and admission not illegals.
@LogicalThinker667 you dont have anything to address. Nothing you say is relevant to what ive been talking about. Address WHAT? that you know some girl thats an illegal that is willing to join our army so she can get citizenship? You want them to succeed or not by their own merits? IS there some reason they cant do that in their own country? and what generalizations are you talking about? How exactly do i need to be saved?
@Sodiumreactor I never said they must be taken care by us, never said that. I merely claim that they should succeed or ruin their life by their own merits. With no ones help. Also this rule is total BS, generalizing won't help you. Also They are citizens, they were born here, what only someone with 10 generations can be citizens? They are classified as citizens. The others u called illegals aren't but the second and third generation that are born here are.
@LogicalThinker667 Like i said, you dont know anything. Your one of thesepeople that think the illegals are poor abused misunderstood victims and must be taken care of by us. They are not citizens, they never will be. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule, and your friend MAY be one of them. But shes the exception, not the rule.
I double checked it, her name is Susana Martinez Republican, governor of New Mexico and grandparents were illegal immigrants on her fathers side. Also I live in so-cal, lots of Hispanics here. I've even got a friend that has no paper and is joining the army and is willing to die for the country she now calls home. Also she doesn't speak Spanish. Kind of Ironic. But the ones you call illegals by are citizens since they are born here, they most likely speak broken Spanish.
@LogicalThinker667 LOL it wasnt New Mexico. That state has one of the most illegal friendly governments in the country. You dont know anything about illegal immigrants, i can tell that from what your saying. If you dont know what your talking about, why are you running your mouth? shut up already. they are NOT citizens, nor, will they ever be. they are illegals with papers. they dont give a shit about you, or any other person who is actually a citizen.
@Sodiumreactor I think the state was New Mexico or something, but I can't remember exactly. Also Yes I do know 2nd and 3rd gen. If they are born here they are citizens, dude third gen their parents are citizens. I noticed that by 3rd gen they most likely no longer speaks spanish and haven't been to their country of origin in their life. And they are not illegals smart one if they are born here they are citizens.
@LogicalThinker667 What state is that? She is NOT the rule, she is the exception. Do you actually KNOW any 2/3 gen illegals? I seriously doubt you do. Otherwise you would understand what I am talking about. Another item, we dont need REFORM, we need ENFORCEMENT. Real simple.
@Sodiumreactor Well the 3rd generation by that stage most likely no longer speak Spanish (or other language). And there parents were citizens. probably not their grandparents though. I don't see why you count them as illegals. Btw there was a governmenr of this state ( i forgot which) who was passing anti-immigration reform even though her grandparents came here illegally. I bet you won't be calling her an illegal.
@Apsu88 I only somewhat support Ron Paul btw, if it comes down to Paul v Obama I'd choose Paul. If it's between Obama and any other Republican then it really doesn't matter who you vote for.
Its no surprise this traitor signed this law. This is the exact same politician that signed a law that gives our tax money to the children of illegal immigrants. Why did we elect him? OH WAIT WE DIDNT, all the illegals did.
I was openly carrying my loaded firearm tonight, in Starbucks. A Tempe policeman came in, ordered his mocha foo foo latte whatever.. saw me as I went up to get some sugar and stirred it in.. walked back to my seat. He conversed with the barista some.. saw me again.. then left. If California police departments actually observed the 2nd and 4th amendment, there would be no waste of police resources.
I am concerned for the unloaded open carriers. Bad guy will shoot them first. Then rob the convenience store.
Siguror6 2 weeks ago
@Siguror6 ...Or loaded open carry. It should be our choice to carry how we want. I like OC sometimes simply because i don't want to dress around my gun and/or carry a tiny gun to conceal. But I also like CC in some situations because i like the element of surprise
jonestim491 2 weeks ago
Recall election anyone who ever voted for Jerry brown was a complete fucking idiot cuz he fucked up in the 70's with the death penalty and he is fucking up again with passing this bullshit
brahmasinger71 2 weeks ago
unloaded, open carry. Just made them a target, should only carry concealed loaded.
Siguror6 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor No you idiot, if you want to be against immigration do you vote democrat or republican? Republican, they tend to have anti immigration stances more than democrats, although some democrats would step up enforcement. Also it was her grandparents who were the illegal ones.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 well well. it looks like this Gov. of New Mexico is *attemtping* to change the states pro-immigration status. However, its still an illegal friendly state. You can still get a DL regardless if you are illegal or not. She IS trying to change that. I dont see anything about her that says her parents were illegal. Why do you keep bringing up the fact that she is a Republican? Are you against Reps or something?
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor I said "generalizing won't help you" smart one. Also Yes I've been outside my hometown and even to Mexico a few times. Also I've looked up policies done in New Mexico, it's a Republican governor cracking down on illegal immigration who herself had grandparent who were illegal immigrant her name is Susana Martinez btw, it's like saying Alabama or Arizona are illegal friendly is you call NM illegal friendly.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 You said I needed to be saved in your own post. Man, do you even pay attention to the BS that comes out of your mouth? Or in this case, your brain? read back through your replys, you tell me that "generalizations cant save me". Ever been to New Mexico? Ever been outside your hometown?
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor When do I said you need to be saved? I'm not a religous nutbag. Also you called New Mexico one of the most illegal friendly places. it's not there's anti immigrant legislation and a Republican Governor, California yes but New Mexico no. Also you call them illegals despite the being born here, they are by definition and admission not illegals.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 you dont have anything to address. Nothing you say is relevant to what ive been talking about. Address WHAT? that you know some girl thats an illegal that is willing to join our army so she can get citizenship? You want them to succeed or not by their own merits? IS there some reason they cant do that in their own country? and what generalizations are you talking about? How exactly do i need to be saved?
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor That's the best you got? I like how you never address what I said and resort to insults, proud of you
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 Your wasting my time. you like em so much, move to mexico. or step in front of a bus, i really could care less. buh bye
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor I never said they must be taken care by us, never said that. I merely claim that they should succeed or ruin their life by their own merits. With no ones help. Also this rule is total BS, generalizing won't help you. Also They are citizens, they were born here, what only someone with 10 generations can be citizens? They are classified as citizens. The others u called illegals aren't but the second and third generation that are born here are.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 Like i said, you dont know anything. Your one of thesepeople that think the illegals are poor abused misunderstood victims and must be taken care of by us. They are not citizens, they never will be. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule, and your friend MAY be one of them. But shes the exception, not the rule.
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
I double checked it, her name is Susana Martinez Republican, governor of New Mexico and grandparents were illegal immigrants on her fathers side. Also I live in so-cal, lots of Hispanics here. I've even got a friend that has no paper and is joining the army and is willing to die for the country she now calls home. Also she doesn't speak Spanish. Kind of Ironic. But the ones you call illegals by are citizens since they are born here, they most likely speak broken Spanish.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 LOL it wasnt New Mexico. That state has one of the most illegal friendly governments in the country. You dont know anything about illegal immigrants, i can tell that from what your saying. If you dont know what your talking about, why are you running your mouth? shut up already. they are NOT citizens, nor, will they ever be. they are illegals with papers. they dont give a shit about you, or any other person who is actually a citizen.
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor I think the state was New Mexico or something, but I can't remember exactly. Also Yes I do know 2nd and 3rd gen. If they are born here they are citizens, dude third gen their parents are citizens. I noticed that by 3rd gen they most likely no longer speaks spanish and haven't been to their country of origin in their life. And they are not illegals smart one if they are born here they are citizens.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 What state is that? She is NOT the rule, she is the exception. Do you actually KNOW any 2/3 gen illegals? I seriously doubt you do. Otherwise you would understand what I am talking about. Another item, we dont need REFORM, we need ENFORCEMENT. Real simple.
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor Well the 3rd generation by that stage most likely no longer speak Spanish (or other language). And there parents were citizens. probably not their grandparents though. I don't see why you count them as illegals. Btw there was a governmenr of this state ( i forgot which) who was passing anti-immigration reform even though her grandparents came here illegally. I bet you won't be calling her an illegal.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@LogicalThinker667 their children can. and thats just as bad. nothing but 2nd and 3rd generation illegals.
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
@Apsu88 I only somewhat support Ron Paul btw, if it comes down to Paul v Obama I'd choose Paul. If it's between Obama and any other Republican then it really doesn't matter who you vote for.
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@911SMOM It was the states that banned gun use in this case, not the federal government,
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
@Sodiumreactor Illegals can't vote smart one, Hispanics yes but only if they're citizens, Same with Asians, blacks and whites
LogicalThinker667 1 month ago
Its no surprise this traitor signed this law. This is the exact same politician that signed a law that gives our tax money to the children of illegal immigrants. Why did we elect him? OH WAIT WE DIDNT, all the illegals did.
Sodiumreactor 1 month ago
I was openly carrying my loaded firearm tonight, in Starbucks. A Tempe policeman came in, ordered his mocha foo foo latte whatever.. saw me as I went up to get some sugar and stirred it in.. walked back to my seat. He conversed with the barista some.. saw me again.. then left. If California police departments actually observed the 2nd and 4th amendment, there would be no waste of police resources.
Chris4400 1 month ago