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[TaR0uk]

i live in Australia how about we make Wagga Wagga the mecca of satanism.... :P

[jason666king]

Sorry for the misidentification, but it makes the point all the more strongly. Seems I'm on the ASS U ME bus today, lol.

[SpiritCrusher47]

Venus satanas mentioned as a mover and shaker.

Nice one jason :P

[fjferd]

It is this current that created us and has given rise to our individuated will. Ultimately our will must be our own, regardless of the current. Human will in this way transcends mere survivalism even though it may lead to our own destruction.

Just trying to stress the difference between individual will and that of the current (so to speak); Both valid and to be acknowledged with similar respect (I stress similar, not equal).

[fjferd]

The 'current' as Jason speaks of is something more in tune with a 'Satan' without, a greater 'Satan' although we are a subset of it; as to say we are ultimately of it's making whether we continue to be a real part of it's continuation or not. Definitely does not require a church or anything for that matter; it is a process that just 'is'.

I think DarkFool is talking about Satan on a microcosmic level where Jason is speaking on a macrocosmic level.

[fjferd]

'Satan' needs no church, just as evolution does not need biology. People need a church because they have needs. People fail to see the COS as a personal endeavor of Anton LeVay for money and personal power; And those that do see this see it as a corruption of Satanism hence fail to realize this is the very essence of it. A personal Satanism where self = god, a Satan within is what I am talking about here; this is what desires such notions as a church etc.

[fjferd]

If your agenda (Satanic) requires you to invest in creating a social institution to further your Satanism; be it for the purpose of self aggrandizement or ego gratification then so be it. There should be no restriction. The difference between you doing so versus the Christian is that you should not be in a state of self-deceit or hypocrisy but embrace the notion. However as Jason tries to stress the 'current' does not require any kind of institutionalization in particular.

[DarkF00L]

Since now.

[CLERKexposed]

Legitimize Satanism for the rest of the world? Since when have Satanists had any interest in doing anything like that?

[DarkF00L]

They also need a church to get their agenda and political ideas pushed forward. Think about it.

[DarkF00L]

In other words, playing their game and winning.

[DarkF00L]

What I would consider to be anti Satanic in its entirety would be letting christian rights activists lobby towards acts that restrict rights and freedoms.

Even though the "Satanic Building" would be oxymornic, its function would be to legitimize Satanism for the rest of the world BECAUSE the world is stuck in this old way of thinking: religion, church, congregate, Satan = evil bad wrong.Part of the organization's job would be outwardly challenging these worldviews by making the current visible.